« BackFlipper One Tech Specsdocs.flipper.netSubmitted by gregsadetsky 2 hours ago
  • jgrahamc an hour ago

    I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device.

    I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty.

    I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One, but I guess I've done a lot of things with Raspberry Pis so... maybe?

    • abr0ahm 2 minutes ago

      It's about time someone rolled out a watch that has these capabilities.

      • tonyarkles 41 minutes ago

        I had similar feelings but the comments below about adding an SDR to it with an M.2 slot got me looking a little closer. This has an 8-core Rockchip A72/A53 processor and 8GB of RAM. This is not an incremental improvement over the Flipper Zero, this is something else entirely. Hmmmmm...

        • sam_lowry_ 37 minutes ago

          Heh... I used Flipper Zero to clone RFID tags for all the neighbors to T5577 rings, pins, sticky pads and whatever not for our gated community.

          If you are adventurous, many ski stations have low-tech cards as well, although they also tend to have human controllers once in a while.

          And, finally, kids like running around with Flipper Zero opening power taps on Teslas.

          • maciejb 30 minutes ago

            I had plenty of fun reverse engineering a 433.92 MHz protocol curtain motors at my house use. Once that was done and I taught first my Flipper Zero, then a RPi with a C1101 to actuate the motors, the Flipper is sitting idly in the drawer.

            • maplant 19 minutes ago

              I plan on using it to create a backup password/2FA device... eventually

              • quietsegfault 34 minutes ago

                I have done exactly the same type and amount of stuff with my flipper zero, probably in the target demo. still, no complaints! I think the one is a cool toy that I will one day (if I’m lucky) use as the perfect solution for a problem. If I can do that just once, it’ll be worth the price for me.

              • sterlind an hour ago

                maybe I'm blind, but it looks like there's no radio! like there's wifi and bluetooth, sure, but I don't see NFC or RFID or sub-1ghz radio, at all.

                imo the flipper always needed to be a software-defined transciever, with a small FPGA to drive it, like the other SDRs on the market. I'm disappointed they seem to have forsaken radio completely.

                • rkourdis an hour ago

                  They added an M.2 port [1] to which you can attach a variety of modules, including SDR (eg. [2] 30 MHz - 11 GHz).

                  [1]: https://docs.flipper.net/one/hardware/m2-port/modules [2]: https://www.crowdsupply.com/wavelet-lab/ssdr

                  • johnwalkr 26 minutes ago

                    The flipper zero was already in a grey area because it easily enables one to do things in licensed bands and do things you’re not allowed to do in unlicensed bands. They can’t plausibly add even more functions in this area and still sell to the public. Presumably all of the interfaces they added are for users to add the functions under their own responsibility.

                  • arjie 12 minutes ago

                    Interesting. No IR/RFID/NFC? That's the primary use of my Flipper Zero. So this is meant to be a different device rather than a successor.

                    • Kikawala 5 minutes ago

                      The 3.5mm audio jack can be used to plug in an IR emitter.

                    • elil17 an hour ago

                      Why the AI voice assistant? What? Is this perhaps a prank? That doesn't line up with the ethos of the Flipper Zero

                      • beepbooptheory 17 minutes ago

                        Where does it talk about a voice assistant?

                        • perryprog 7 minutes ago

                          The first image which annotates the controls has a "Push-to-Talk button" which is used for "Voice communication" and "AI assistant activation".

                      • s_dev 44 minutes ago

                        I've heard some professionally inclined RFID engineers dismiss these as mere toys and not useful compared to professional grade hardware. Perhaps some of those folk are on HN if so what are the tool sets you actually use that can be sold to the public?

                        • K0balt 27 minutes ago

                          RF design is very much an art, and the difference between works and works really well without harmonics and noise is a matter of design subtleties and often expensive parts. There are decent SDR setups around $500-700 that are known to be pretty good, but you have to go out of your way to buy them from the actual design houses, because despite being “identical”, the clones are not the same. In RF, the devil is in the details.

                          • panki27 35 minutes ago

                            Not too far from the truth. The Flipper is good as a toy, but for serious RFID things you want a proxmark 3 clone with Iceman firmware ;)

                          • vivid242 28 minutes ago

                            A Swiss army knife of the day - after all, Swiss Army knives also serve a psychological purpose. And they do it well!

                            • dgellow 28 minutes ago

                              Side question: anyone know what they are using to make those 3d schemas with highlights?

                              • vegadw an hour ago

                                Looks both expensive and power hungry, will be interesting to see how that works out

                                • ge96 an hour ago

                                  Finally a legit prop for movies not a pcb taped to a TV remote

                                  I like that subreddit too with the e-ink display wifi probing thing forget what it's called oh pwnagotchi

                                  • janci an hour ago

                                    Why put such crappy display on such a high power device?

                                    • filcuk 22 minutes ago

                                      That's pretty simple - the chosen display is best for core usage. Cleay visible in bright sun or dark, sharp angles, easy on the battery. For anything else, there's a HDMI out isn't there.