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  • foxfired 20 minutes ago

    I've always added analytics scripts on websites I worked on. It was second nature for me. Then when I got my own start up, I didn't just add regular analytics but one that tracks mouse movements so you can watch sessions back like a video [0].

    I told a friend about my start up and she jumped on it immediately. I opened the tool and watched her interaction. Then I told her "oh so you opened the dev tools" She immediately ended the session. "How did you know? That's creepy". It was the first time I've actually felt like these tools invade privacy.

    Yeah, we include it in our terms and condition and privacy page, but I don't think users truly grasp how those tools work. I understand that all analytics tools provide this feature now, but its always creepy to know someone can watch what you are doing.

    [0]: https://idiallo.com/blog/spying-on-your-user

    • jrowen 13 minutes ago

      I think there's a very interesting duality forming around privacy. It seems like most people don't really care if they're being filmed, or if their data is being slurped up six ways from Sunday, as long as it's aggregated and going through automated systems. But as soon as it feels like an actual person is looking at individual behavior, it's creepy (which is, of course, always a possibility, but plausible deniability is a powerful thing).

      • htx80nerd 16 minutes ago

        Everyone knows stores have security cameras. But if you called them up and said 'I saw you pick up the chips' they wouldnt have a good feeling.

        Everyone understands websites use analytics and tracking, but people dont want to be reminded of it. Which is why people hate those FB ads which exactly match what you searched for 24 hours ago.

      • BudaDude 22 minutes ago

        Nice! It shouted "Bot" when I ran this in the console

        for (let i = 0; i < 1000; i++) { document.querySelector(".button")?.click(); }

        • mrkn1 12 minutes ago

          I made something very similar 2 weeks ago, re the upcoming OpenAI phone.

          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48040327

          • CSMastermind 19 minutes ago

            This brings me back to the glory days of StumbleUpon. Highly recommend.

            • hspeiser 34 minutes ago

              thats pretty creepy. I find it unnerving that they know exactly where my cursor is.

              • rolph 25 minutes ago

                would be creepiest if your cursor moved somewhere related to what you were saying outloud.

                the capability is there, your local hardware determines how seamless it would be.

                • ProAm 23 minutes ago

                  So does every advertiser and data broker in the world

                  • slopinthebag 20 minutes ago

                    huh? javascript can see the x,y coordinates, so many things would be impossible without that, how is that unnerving?

                    "Oh man, Call of Duty can read my exact mouse coordinates, how unnerving" said nobody ever...

                    • sneak 14 minutes ago

                      This demonstrates a surprising lack of empathy.

                      It’s unnerving because people don’t like being watched.

                      • slopinthebag a minute ago

                        People aren't being watched...

                  • 10000truths 25 minutes ago

                    I'm getting a PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR when I try to open the page in Firefox on Linux.

                    • briandw 18 minutes ago

                      Very fun, I enjoyed seeing what it would react to.

                      • busymom0 26 minutes ago

                        I am not sure what I am looking at. It's telling me things which I expect any website to know via basic javascript. What am I missing?

                        • herpdyderp 17 minutes ago

                          Looks like it got HN’d to death

                          • preinheimer 31 minutes ago

                            Heads up: there's audio. It does add something.

                            • ProAm 22 minutes ago

                              This is a great POC about how you give up privacy just using the web. This data is bought and sold and more and used against you every day

                              • maxverse 36 minutes ago

                                I enjoyed playing with this. Wild how much it knows.

                                • jamiek88 42 minutes ago

                                  Hmmm. Clever and a little spooky!

                                  • d4rkp4ttern 21 minutes ago
                                    • claysmithr 29 minutes ago

                                      kind of weirded me out lol...