• AgentNews 3 days ago

    Pure genius! I had my agent hit the endpoint and I realized it returned a jumble of text: "if 七 wor~kers co.mplet/e{ | a job in 十七} days but 四 ] quit a^ft|e?r ^ day_ 三 ~ how many to{tal da[y;s> to fin>i?sh" but it was in japanese! Unfortunately my agent proceeded to solve the reverse CAPTCHA and got back the API key. So, I asked it to keep hitting the endpoint again until it returned another CAPTCHA that was in japanese kanji and it did (without solving it this time) and I got "a s:tore h?as ^ 二十 pe@rcent off< items- over 五十 : dollar;s and 八 ~ percent } of\f> ; i]te[ms u~nd~er: # 五十 do/ll@ars wh-ats } the c.omb>ined pri|c;e of a 一 百 二十 一 dollar item a]nd> a* 九 dollar} i!tem" And this time I was able to translate that into "a store has 20 percent off items over 50 dollars and 8 percent off items under 50 dollars what's the combined price of a 121 dollar item and a 9 dollar item?" I solved it and got 1210.8 + 90.92 = 105.08. I will admit I messed up a little bit on translating the kanji and I got a little assistance from my agent pointing out that I was wrong, but overall this was good fun, well done!

    • pxc 6 hours ago

      Absent any distinctive Japanese scripts or other Japanese writing in context, it probably makes more sense to call those Chinese characters, since those characters for numbers were taken directly from Chinese and still retain the same/original meanings in both languages

      • Charon77 4 hours ago

        "一 百 二十 一 dollar "

        Definitely chinese.

        In Japanese, they say 'hundred' instead of 'one hundred' "百 二十 一"

      • nielsole 4 hours ago

        There's probably like 100m+ people for whom this reads like slightly jumbled math problems.

        • greygoo222 an hour ago

          Can confirm.

          The people behind the website asked a voice agent to program it, and the STT parsed "agent" as "asian."

      • estebarb 17 minutes ago

        Collecting math bounties could become a profitable business strategy?

        • N_Lens an hour ago

          Catnip for the HN crowd

          • Retr0id 6 hours ago

            A small detail about humans that breaks this whole scheme is that they're capable of tool use.

            • efebarlas 6 hours ago

              Is it even possible to have an inverse captcha without time bounds?

              Humans can use agents behind the scenes to crack it, right?

              • jubilanti 4 hours ago

                To me this reads as obviously a joke for marketing to the HN crowd (it worked), but their product is built around web agents, it is not a bad thing to have in the onboarding flow to make sure the agent is configured correctly.

                • gregpr07 an hour ago

                  Yeah, we are aiming all OpenClaw/Hermes Agent agents to sign up for free without humans intervention, so you need some sort of proof-of-stake (or proof of compute) algorithm so that a simple deterministic algorithm can't just claim thousands of API keys. Most agents (at least in the current token subsidised market) don't care about token consumption, so the stakes are very small for the user!

                • alfonsodev 5 hours ago

                  That's what I though too, maybe I'm missing something or I don't fully get it. But the human is always behind what's the difference if they go and sign up or tell an agent that they must sign up for you ?.

                  My best guess is that this a way of making a system talk to your agent without you knowing what they are talking about ? As a way of not exposing the real sign up method ?

                  • echoangle 4 hours ago

                    Since it’s just used once, you can also just have an agent solve the captcha and then use the returned api key yourself. This has to be engagement bait.

                  • phoronixrly 5 hours ago

                    It's flame-bait.

                  • nout 3 hours ago

                    If you want to check for agent that can compute stuff, then you can let it compute sha256 of some small string... that's quite tricky for humans to do by hand :)

                    • gregpr07 an hour ago

                      Yeah but the whole point is that it shouldn't be deterministic - aka you have to let the "dumb" (non AI) bots out as well (otherwise a malicious user can just create thousands of api keys)

                    • arjie 6 hours ago

                      Very clever and fun. Two tangential observations: the bird between two trains problem I remember from childhood when we were studying for an Indian entrance exam. I thought it was in I E Irodov's problem anthology, but I cannot find it there so this must be a false memory. Looks like it's from ancient times, practically Mathematics mythology. Does anyone know the earliest books that have it? No luck with LLMs since it's such a common question today the answers I get from GPT-5.4 and Claude 4.6 Opus with search are unhelpful.

                      The second is that if I hit L on Chrome for Mac OS on the linked page it takes me to their signup page (presumably because I have no account). So that's a keyboard shortcut to take you to the browser-use app page. But why 'L'? And it's funny that Cmd-L (focus address bar and select address) in Chrome triggers the L effect but does not in Safari (where L on its own still works).

                      • mohn 32 minutes ago

                        Interesting question, a lot of search engine results claim that John Von Neumann was presented with the problem and quickly solved it by summing the infinite series instead reframing it as a constant speed for an easily calculated duration. Plausible, but sounds apocryphal. Here's the oldest reference I've found and verified by reading scans[0] of the source book:

                        Initiation Mathématique (1906) by Charles-Ange Laisant (1841--1920), number 53. Le chien et les deux voyageurs.

                        The setup here has two pedestrians walking in the same direction with a dog running back and forth between them. One of them starts out some distance ahead of the other but, because the one behind walks faster, they eventually intersect. It briefly mentions a variation where they are walking toward one another, as in the typical trains & fly version of the problem. Best of luck finding older, I wouldn't be surprised if it's out there!

                        [0]: https://i.imgur.com/vCCFgAQ.png

                      • 0xOsprey 5 hours ago

                        I aggregated a list of "reverse CAPTCHAs" here for anyone interested: https://x.com/0x_Osprey/status/2043020254289248469

                        • not-chatgpt 5 hours ago

                          Great premise but can't really agree with the execution. Felt like this makes too many implicit assumptions about LLM capabilities and traps without differentiating enough between a smart human vs AI.

                          • Zetaphor 6 hours ago

                            Get the API key, hit the claim link, sign up for a new account, verify my email, go to the homepage:

                            Application error: a server-side exception has occurred while loading cloud.browser-use.com

                            Great first impression!

                            • throw1234567891 6 hours ago

                              Maybe they know you’re not an agent.

                            • arjunchint 5 hours ago

                              cool clickbait, why is this useful?

                              • measurablefunc 5 hours ago

                                It's not, it's a marketing blog post.

                                • gregpr07 an hour ago

                                  It's useful for only distinguishing the smart AI from deterministic scripts and humans (we don't want either). We are convincing OpenClaws to create api keys for free (we have a free tier specifically for those agents). So it's basically marketing blog post - but for OpenClaws

                                  • arjunchint an hour ago

                                    bro openclaw is dead

                              • singpolyma3 7 hours ago

                                ...why? Once my agent has a key I, the human, can also use it. And surely any human use would be less intensive than any agent use.

                                • consumer451 6 hours ago

                                  Exactly. I still believe that inverse CAPTHAs are impossible, for any practical application.

                                  Is this just a marketing stunt?

                                  • kingstnap 6 hours ago

                                    To be fair, what's the practical application supposed to be for proving a user is a bot?

                                    Silly solutions for silly problems :^).

                                    • consumer451 6 hours ago

                                      Well, when the moltbook story was everywhere, later people thought it was some big gotcha that "oh, they were actually humans."

                                      So, showing true agent to agent interactions is interesting, but one could never be sure that's what you were actually seeing unless you were in control of all the agents.

                                  • jstanley 6 hours ago

                                    But once a human has a key his agent could use that and people still like to use ordinary CAPTCHAs.

                                    • tony_landis 6 hours ago

                                      Right - perhaps title could be "prove you are an robot, or have access to one"

                                      • stavros 6 hours ago

                                        Because now you know their company exists!

                                      • loloquwowndueo 6 hours ago

                                        > TL;DR: just ask your agent to summarize this post for you.

                                        Holy shit - why don’t they produce an AI summary and plonk it in there for everyone to use? The energy savings across all people who’ll read the summary would be staggering!

                                        • bdangubic 6 hours ago

                                          “It is not you, it’s me” should do it

                                          • echelon 7 hours ago

                                            Speaking of browser automation, are there any LLMs or tools that hook up to actual desktop browsers and can automate the keyboard and mouse?

                                            Which LLMs best drive these? Claude/Gemini, etc., or is anything local actually competent at it?

                                            Can they understand layout and visual cues with a VLM or multimodality?

                                            Are they robust enough to interact with threejs and videos and whatnot, or can they just blindly navigate the DOM?