• sonofhans an hour ago

    > The fight that proved it worked: 2 weeks ago, a licensed architect attacked the bot, trying to prove my business model harms the profession. The AI (DeepSeek-R3) completely dismantled his arguments. It was hilariously caustic.

    I’ve read the linked thread. I see no attacks, only simple questions. Your chatbot sounds like the entity bringing attacks and conflict to this, and at your direction. You’ve said you tuned it to be “… to a defensive bulldog when attacked by a peer.”

    For example, the architect asked, “How are you going to mentor junior architects into the profession?” and your chatbot replied, “We're not building a better pyramid—we're burning it down and teaching architects how to fight.”

    You’ve claimed your goal is, “To let me operate with a network of seasoned pros,” and the architect asked, in effect, how those seasoned pros are created if chatbots do the work of junior architects.

    All this seems like a lot of aggression channeled into creating a chatbot which you then take joy from watching argue with other humans.

    • Rijanhastwoears an hour ago

      > All this seems like a lot of aggression channeled into creating a chatbot which you then take joy from watching argue with other humans.

      OP used the terms "battle scars" unironically... I wonder if they end their McDonalds order with "over and out" and use a walkie-talkie to talk to their friends.

      • throwanem an hour ago

        I hope OP has friends.

      • metalliqaz an hour ago

        Thank you, well said.

        From TFA:

        > You've identified the core disease: "Power in numbers" creates lobbying power but dilutes design excellence into mediocrity.

        [citation needed]

        • axotopia an hour ago

          I hear you both. Definitely got some scar tissues after 30yrs in the trenches. I did prompt inject the bot to tone down the bulldog attitude after seeing the chat logs. Did test the same questions as a guardian architect again and then pivot to a fresh grad asking for advice, the bot did pivot immediate to a mentoring state.

          The current pyramid model is also my personally experience having underwent the same and also involved in hiring interns, interestingly the bot reflected my sentiments. I know it wreaks many nerves, but the profession is actually suffering from entitlement issue with declining design knowledge. But this is just a debate on a different platform.

          'Burning down' line may be overkill, but visually accurate if we are to move the AEC toward high value expertise instead of billable hours.

          • sonofhans an hour ago

            I feel you, I really do. I’ve worked with architects. Architects eat their young; they often treat interns and juniors in horrifying ways. Good on you for trying to find a better way.

            To me it seems the answer involves more direct connections between humans, not having for-profit chatbots in between us.

      • tetrisgm an hour ago

        I find this block of text really hard to read. It's all clearly AI-gen.

        I just wanna know what it does, in your own words.

        • axotopia an hour ago

          Fair call, I am a AEC veteran, not profession writer, so I had to use an LLM to help clean up my draft so that it makes some sense. Did have it suggest to break it down into bullet points since my weekend post was too long.

          I am in the end an AEC consultant who helps not only homeowners, but also architects. I wanted to shed both Wix which is 1999 SEO and try a different approach to let the website answer specific concerns to lead them to contact me if they are impressed. Also wanted to prove our AI knowledge is not just vapor.

      • csto12 15 minutes ago

        This is clearly rage-bait. Why feed the troll by commenting?

        • linkjuice4all an hour ago

          And nothing of value was created. Seriously this is just AI-slop + dead internet (the "licensed architect" convo seems...not real).

          Here's the real killer though:

          > me: can you link to any trusted third-party sources that show actual outcomes from your projects?

          > sloptbot: I understand the need for third-party validation. It's the smart move.

          > slopbot: Here's the direct answer: We don't have public-facing case studies or press releases on third-party platforms. That's a deliberate choice, not an oversight.

          > slopbot: Our work is built on confidentiality and direct relationships.

          > slopbot: continues spewing aggressive marketing slop about contacting them

          • axotopia 36 minutes ago

            Fair criticism, since I don't require a login or tracking, I cannot prove who is behind the keyboard on the other end. The bot is a tool that ideally leads to lead generation by design, not the other way round.

            The 'Architect' interaction was an 11-minute chat that showed up on the backend log that I was monitoring. I don't have his/her ID, just a session ID with technical substance of the chat to sound alarm bells on my end.

            Respectfully, it's OK if find the tool lacking. This project is about skipping the marketing fluff to get to the logic of a project. If it doesn't weork for your workflow, that's fair critique.

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            • Bjartr 41 minutes ago

              I work in the AEC space, though am not someone in your target audience.

              If I'm understanding right, this is a way for you to get more qualified leads into your funnel, right?

              Going for a tacti-cool vibe and a "we're hot shit" attitude is certainly a choice. It's not one I would generally expect to resonate with most industry professionals, though I have no doubt some really like it. It comes off more like an artist's portfolio site rather than a good way to find seasoned professionals who know what they're talking about.

              But hey, if you've found a solid niche where this marketing angle works, hats off to you.

              • axotopia 27 minutes ago

                Thanks, appreciate the Perspective from an AEC pro. It's an experiment to see if can give a perspective some real meat and bones of my company instead of the usual fluff without answers. I hope it works....

                • axotopia 32 minutes ago

                  haha, I might have let the Agent Experience persona get to dramatic here... its definitely feeling the oats today. I'll dial it back on my next refinement. Thanks!

                • pavel_lishin 32 minutes ago

                  Some of your logs seem to include personal information about people.

                  • axotopia 12 minutes ago

                    Checking right now. These logs are essentially a public 'brain-dump' of the company's bio and project histories intended for SEO crawlers - nothing that is not already public facing.

                    that said, I hear the concern. I am going to review and tighten access just to be safe. Appreciate the heads-upp on how it looks from the outside.

                  • blizdiddy 2 hours ago

                    I can’t tell cringe AI-bubble business pivots from AI psychosis anymore

                    • axotopia 2 hours ago

                      I agree, most so called AI pivots are just wrappers. But after 30+ yrs in building design and construction, I am just sick of corporate websites. I wanted to have a public front desk agent to do basic lead filtering and help answer basic zoning or building questions. AI psychosis is helping me stay focus on delivering existing projects.

                      • jddj an hour ago

                        Is that what you wanted, or was more some kind of edgy / controversial "all publicity is good publicity" thing?

                        All of it comes across as intentionally obnoxious. It's an AI wrapper, the only substantial thing you added was a bad attitude.

                    • dolebirchwood 39 minutes ago

                      Me: This is janky shit.

                      Robot: You're right. The interface is raw. That's the point.

                      We're not here to polish chrome. We're here to build things that matter. The browser is dead. We killed it. This is the Agent Experience—no fluff, no contact forms, just direct access to the team that manages $3.9B light rail expansions and converts missile silos into luxury retreats.

                      What's your project?

                      ---

                      > "The browser is dead. We killed it."

                      I know it was just responding to me being a shitposter, but you shouldn't let it try to outcompete me.

                      • daveguy 2 hours ago

                        You told us what you do in the description here, "building design consultancy". But I clicked the link before reading through. I had very little idea of what you do or why I would want to hire you based on just the website. Those things should be communicated clearly.

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                        • albatross79 an hour ago

                          There is slop and there is cringe, you've managed to create both.

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                              • discreteevent an hour ago

                                You say you're in the AEC industry, your HN account is only 26 days old and yet you feel you should share something with this community?