There is a reason why no US president in the last 40 years has gone through with the fantasy of attacking Iran. When even George W. Bush decides against a war, it means something.
I think George himself is the reason we wound up in Iraq and not Iran. That cabinet was just itching to invade a country full of brown people and oil we could "liberate". Afghanistan obviously didn't scratch that itch and all those people, just by nature of what was going on in the world earlier in their careers, f-ing hated Iran. Buuut, Iran would've been a tough sell. Meanwhile, just over the border there's this other other country full of oil and brown people that's run by a guy the world already considers bad, the propaganda will be easier, the coalition that's keeping him under control is kinda falling apart so we can use the threat of regional destabilization and terrorism to get buy in, the Bush family regrets leaving him in power so any "out of band" advice he may seek is going to be favorable, etc, etc.
Well, hindsight's 20/20.
Trump just doesn't have the snap that Biden had when he was that age, much less Bush.
Foresight, in this case, was also 20/20. Just because they didn’t listen doesn’t mean they weren’t told.
I wonder what the overall effect of this war will be on global warming. If you put together the awful pollution caused by the battle itself and the reduced oil and gas production that follows, it could be a net benefit. Sure, it's a sarcastic pov, but I'm trying to cling to the positive here so be nice.
Ugh. my heart goes out to all the people in south and Southeast Asia who are now going to be paying substantially more for gas to heat up their food.
If you haven't already, look what Pete Hegseth (whose mother disowned him) had to say to the top US commanders about sparking armageddon. This is ultimate bullshit. Cosplaying assholes with captain hook style hangups.
In the words of the Qatari Energy Minister;
"I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that Qatar would be - Qatar and the region - in such an attack, especially from a brotherly Muslim country in the month of Ramadan, attacking us in this way,"
That's enough of a display of true leadership to put the ones in the US, Iran, and Israel to complete shame like absolute garbage just because of how bad they need to be thrown out.
Stop spreading nonsense. Israel is behind all this. Only ones to blames. Whatever Iran does is justified.
Taking into account that Iran's own oil facilities had been bombed earlier this week and that they had threatened to retaliate if this happens, what Iran does seems indeed fair play.
100%. And I say this as a very pro-western person. Countries have the right to retaliate. Iran is using what little leverage they have.
Of course they do, which is why Israel's retaliation was their prerogative too.
That being said, Hacker News isn't the place for politics so please can everyone go back to reddit if you're feeling emotional. Looking at you, juliusceasar.
Just to be sure we have your position right: Are you characterizing what Israel did as a retaliation? What specifically were they retaliating against?
Constantly sending missiles and drones towards civilian buildings in Dubai and Doha is morally bankrupt and unjustifiable. It doesn't matter who UAE & Qatar are aligned with, they were at least a friend to Iran for many years.
Is what Israel does in Gaza morally bankrupt and unjustifiable?
This isn't whataboutism because I'm not trying to negate your point. Instead, I'm just curious if you apply the same standard to Israel/Gaza or if you think that in that case killing innocent people is justified.
USA and Israel started it. USA does not get to blame the smaller country for a war its leadership wanted.
Second, no, "whatever Ira. Does is justified' is too much a blaket allowance. The Iranian regime does not get absolytion for everythijg just because it is in an illegal war USA started. They are plenty awful on their own.
But yes, similar Iranian infrastructure is targetted by USA and Israel. Not by Quatar.
USA leadership is completely compromised, both democrats and republicans. They're all paid by AIPAC.
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