• scrollop an hour ago

    Will F-droid continue when Google bring in their changes, soon?

    • microtonal an hour ago

      Even with Google's changes, F-Droid will continue to work with Android phones that do not use Google GMS.

      If you care about your actually owning your device, install something else than stock OS. I would recommend GrapheneOS, since the security of some/most other alternatives is pretty bad.

      • scrollop an hour ago

        Would love to ditch google and use grapheneOS, however have so many banking and (stupid) outlook for work.

        • amelius 10 minutes ago

          You can check banking app compatibility here:

          https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

          • TobTobXX 14 minutes ago

            The outlook webapp is quite decent. I've never used their native app, but I've manahed to get by fine with their webapp, even though notifications don't work (I just check it regularily). IIRC K9/Thunderbird also has support for exchange now.

            • sheiyei 35 minutes ago

              Apparently a lot of banking apps work with the sandboxed Google malwares. Not sure though, I'm not a user (wrong hardware)

          • echelon 23 minutes ago

            This piddly open source effort pales in comparison to what we should really be doing:

            Horizontally splitting Google into multiple companies.

            Not division via department splits, but equal partitioning across the company into multiple horizontal businesses that compete on the same offerings.

            The EU and next DOJ/FTC need to force this.

          • duskdozer an hour ago

            As of now, Google isn't destroying non-Google android installs, so F-droid will still work there (correct me if wrong). So until Google takes android fully closed or succeeds in getting popular/necessary apps to blacklist non-Google-verified devices, F-droid still has a role

            • riedel an hour ago

              I hope so. The changes can mean two things: people can only use it easily in custom roms (I guess there is an overlap there) or they actually would play with Google: i guess technically they could as well register and sign the stuff with a Google key as the software is all FOSS and would allow defining another responsible developer (otherwise Google would have to through out all FOSS without CLA from their playstore). I guess quitting would be an option, but IMHO the outrage outside the bubble would probably be hardly noticable, so what would be the point?

            • brador an hour ago

              You always start open source at the kernel.

              Linus knew this day 1 and it bows to no one.

              • iberator 39 minutes ago

                what do you even mean?! start what at the kernel?

                kernel is locked and most phones can't be rooted anymore