• jeremysalwen a day ago

    I'm suspicious of the theorem proving example. I thought Z3 could fail to return sat or unsat, but he is assuming that if it's not sat the theorem must be proven

    • ymherklotz 21 hours ago

      No I think it's fine. On another note, I have proven Fermat's Last Theorem with z3 using this setup :) and it goes faster if you reduce a variable called "timeout" for some reason!

        from z3 import *
        
        s = Solver()
        s.set("timeout", 600)
        a = Int('a')
        b = Int('b')
        c = Int('c')
        s.add(a > 0)
        s.add(b > 0)
        s.add(c > 0)
        theorem = a ** 3 + b ** 3 != c ** 3
        if s.check(Not(theorem)) == sat:
            print(f"Counterexample: {s.model()}")
        else:
            print("Theorem true")
      • hwayne 21 hours ago

        ...Whoops. Yup, SMT solvers can famously return `unknown` on top of `sat` and `unsat`. Just added a post addendum about the mistake.

      • potato-peeler a day ago

        For the curious, solvers like z3 are used in programming languages to verify logic and constraints. Basically it can help find logic issues and bugs during compile time itself, instead of waiting for it to show up in runtime.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfiability_modulo_theories...

        • lkuty 3 hours ago

          Like in the Dafny pogramming language. Cfr. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLS_y842fMc

          • bjornsing a day ago

            The concept is called static analysis.

            • ukuina a day ago

              Seems adjacent, with some overlap.

            • mathisfun123 a day ago

              in theory that's what a compiler is - a thin wrapper over a SAT solver. in practice most compilers just use heuristics <shrug>.

            • iberator a day ago

              I was expecting a Z3 computer from Germany.