• wumms 9 hours ago

    Writing system [0]: "In a talk at the Oxford University Society of Bibliophiles on 11 May 2009 [1], Serafini stated that there is no meaning behind the Codex's script, which is asemic; that his experience in writing it was similar to automatic writing [2]; and that what he wanted his alphabet to convey was the sensation children feel with books they cannot yet understand, although they see that the writing makes sense for adults. However, the book's page-numbering system was decoded by Allan C. Wechsler and Bulgarian linguist Ivan Derzhanski, as being a variation of base 21."

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_Seraphinianus#Writing_sy...

    [1] I could not find a source for that talk

    [2] Automatic writing, also called psychography, is a claimed psychic ability allowing a person to produce written words without consciously writing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_writing

    • avadodin 3 hours ago

      > Humans generating random numbers

    • ggm 12 hours ago

      Copies hung around my partners secondhand bookshop for years. This was in the 1980s. Properly shelved under "esoterica"

      1st Ed. Now worth $6,000 oh well.

      • oniony 30 minutes ago

        I have a 2nd edition. When I went on holiday in Italy in about ten years ago I noticed a copy for sale in a board game shop.

        • giraffe_lady 11 hours ago

          My local (but big city) library had a circulating copy until about five years ago. It mostly stayed in my home, once or twice a year someone else would request it and I'd give it back for a few months. It's in library use only now but I took great care of it lol.

          • ggm 5 hours ago

            The only book less likely to be sold was "voyage to Arcturus" which is the worst most depressing Sci fi fantasy ever. That, or future shock by Alvin toffler.

            • flir an hour ago

              I've been in second hand bookshops that sprinkled their copies of The Da Vinci Code around the shelves so it wasn't so obvious how many they had.

              (When I was a kid, Dennis Wheatley paperbacks were everywhere. Now I never see them. They were pretty cheap paper, maybe they literally fell apart).

        • inasio 11 hours ago

          I have a nice copy, at least as of a few years ago you can get them for relatively cheap. I've been meaning to put scans of the text into OpenCV and play a bit to see if there's an underlying code. The number system in the page numbers has been cracked as far as I know.

          • peterldowns 10 hours ago

            I own a copy, never fails to weird people out when they flip through. Highly recommend.

            • zafka 10 hours ago

              Hmmm, Now I need to find out where my copy is hiding. I really need to reorganize the books again. I savored this for a while, but have not gone through the entire book yet. Sort of like War & Peace - books that everyone must read before they die, and I am saving them for insurance.

              • Animats 8 hours ago

                XKCD's explanation: [1]

                [1] https://xkcd.com/593/

              • wewewedxfgdf 12 hours ago

                It is so strange that books like this cost hundreds and hundreds of dollars to buy.

                You might think the publisher would ........ publish some to sell.

                • benrutter an hour ago

                  I think this is sort of just what publishing looks like for super niche books. Academic books are a rip off for other reasons too, but they also have the issue that only a very small number of copies are expected to sell, smaller runs means comparatively bigger overheads, means more expensive books.

                  • pavel_lishin 12 hours ago

                    There might not be that much demand. My understanding is that a good printing of a book will only make money back in pretty large amounts; if there's only a thousand weirdos in the world who want to buy it (and I'm one of those thousand), it'll only barely break even, if that.

                    Actually, I'm wrong, there is a newly published version that costs under a hundred bucks.

                    • habitue 11 hours ago

                      The first edition is expensive. The current edition is ~$90 for a full color hardcover (expensive but not ruinius if you really want it)

                      • summa_tech 10 hours ago

                        And honestly pretty great, unless you are a collector. It's well done.

                        The book itself is beautiful and haunting. But I don't think it's for everyone... I have a copy, and I gifted one to someone in my family who really didn't understand the point.

                      • golem14 6 hours ago

                        Just wait until you see an original print of the nice and accurate prophesies of Agnes nutter or the bugger all bible …