• zamadatix 2 hours ago

    Already active discussion in the following posts:

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47051559 (6 hours ago - 14 comments)

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47051546 (6 hours ago - 216 comments)

    • throwaway81523 an hour ago

      And they are making them without steering wheels now! There's a saying about that I'm sure.

      https://electrek.co/2026/02/17/tesla-rolls-first-steering-wh...

      • simondotau 2 hours ago
        • 1970-01-01 2 hours ago

          >Citing data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), Electrek reports.

          Round and round we go. The original story: https://electrek.co/2026/02/17/tesla-robotaxi-adds-5-more-cr...

          • briandw 2 hours ago

            How many of you have run into a bollard or other fixed structure at less than 5 mph and didn't report it?

            • throwaway5465 2 hours ago

              I don't weigh 3 tons.

            • testing22321 2 hours ago

              “A crash with a bus while the Tesla vehicle was stopped”

              Hmmmm.

              This guy must have a huge short position

              • hn_throwaway_99 2 hours ago

                And you must have a long position if you're going to cherry pick so egregiously. The other incidents from that same paragraph that you conveniently left out:

                * a collision with a fixed object at 17 miles per hour

                * a crash with a truck at four miles per hour

                * two cases where Tesla vehicles backed into fixed objects at low speeds.

                So in the 5 cases listed in that paragraph, 3 of them were when a Tesla hit a stationary object. Hitting a stationary object should be like the last thing I would think an autonomous vehicle would have trouble with, but if you got rid of lidar and radar because Elon had a fever dream, maybe it's not so unexpected.

                • decimalenough 2 hours ago

                  That phrasing gave me a chuckle as well. Nevertheless, the accidents per miles driven stats don't assign blame: Tesla is now "experiencing" a crash every 57,000 mi, vs the US statistical human driver average of 229,000 miles and Waymo's claimed ~500,000 mi per "incident".

                  https://waymo.com/safety/impact/

                  • stahtops 2 hours ago

                    Fascinating to cherry pick while trying to color an article as biased. Couldn’t even include an entire sentence?

                    “The incidents included a collision with a fixed object at 17 miles per hour, a crash with a bus while the Tesla vehicle was stopped, a crash with a truck at four miles per hour, and two cases where Tesla vehicles backed into fixed objects at low speeds.”