• s09dfhks an hour ago

    I spun up a self hosted teamspeak server last weekend for my friends and I using their docker container.

    Its going to take some getting used to. Seems weird that they have a hard cap on 10MB file upload sizes if its self hosted. Also the screen sharing wasn't working quite right

    Otherwise, voice and text chat is there

    • ecshafer a minute ago

      10MB seems like a vestige of old code. What used to be reasonable no longer is. Cameras have too many pixels now for that low of a limit.

      • agumonkey 19 minutes ago

        Maybe a good opportunity to reduce screensharing (unless pure video content). A lot of people are sharing webpages through video. That's subpar (except for the shared pointer)

        • spencerflem 25 minutes ago

          Doesn’t text chat still have a weird thing where you can’t see the texts unless you’re in a voice call in that channel?

        • ecshafer an hour ago

          Wow Teamspeak is still around and looks like they are succeeding again. Teamspeak and Ventrilo used to be such a mainstay of the video game community. I was curious why so many younger people were getting Discords instead of starting up Vent or Teamspeak servers like we used to. It does look like Teamspeak has taken a note out of discord and slacks notebook and have gotten more advanced chat room options now.

          • Aurornis 28 minutes ago

            > I was curious why so many younger people were getting Discords instead of starting up Vent or Teamspeak servers like we used to.

            Discord did a great job of making it easy and free to get all of your friends into a group together. Everything just works. You don’t need to have an IT person in the group to set up the server and walk everyone through connecting.

            In the early days of gaming it seemed like every gaming group had at least one person who worked in tech and didn’t mind setting up a server. Now gaming is mainstream and the average gaming group doesn’t have a person who can host a server for them. Even when they do, that person would rather spend their gaming time on playing the games instead of playing the IT person for the group.

            • nehal3m 2 minutes ago

              As that IT person I’ve set up a few alternatives over the years (and they’re still up, certs and all). Matrix stuck with a decent group of people, but the group I hung out on Discord with refused to move. I definitively bailed after the ID news but the guys didn’t follow (to Matrix, or Jitsi, or TeamSpeak, or Mumble).

              I’m kind of salty about making a fruitless effort I’ll admit, but I feel like unless there’s an effortless, perfect, free program that replicates the (voice) channel functionality and screen sharing features people are not going to leave Discord. Even if it does treat its users like shit.

              I miss those guys but I refuse to take part in that abuse, and I’m angry about it.

              • zadikian 2 minutes ago

                Yeah and even some of us IT people weren't enough into video games to care about hosting voice chat. Like I ran the middle school Minecraft server but not a Teamspeak for it.

              • m4rtink 43 minutes ago

                I think the main reason was Discord basically doumping free server hosting with VC money to eliminate competition.

                Now that money has finally run out, it looks like things are reverting back to normal.

                • zadikian 24 minutes ago

                  Because a Discord server is very easy and free to set up, and has nice features like screensharing that weren't commonly handled well at the time. Before that, we used Skype or AIM or iChat if we even wanted audio at all; Teamspeak was more for "serious gamers."

                • SilverElfin 2 minutes ago

                  That same Peter Thiel-tied verification that Discord is using, Persona, is also used by many other services right? Anyone know who else uses them so I can avoid them?

                  • nightski 20 minutes ago

                    Discord has the momentum but overall I just find the experience awful. It would be nice to use anything else at this point. Joining a server with greater than a handful of people is just a nightmare and practically unusable.

                    • zadikian 12 minutes ago

                      Isn't this usually cause the admin went overboard? Like a server of 10 people has 30 channels, one of which is a lobby you have to clear first, and 10 bots telling you that you leveled up or whatever.

                    • mitchell_h an hour ago

                      A well known path....bluesky saw it with twitter. Reddit with digg. /. with digg are the ones that come to mind. Interesting to see if this works out better.

                      • lenerdenator an hour ago

                        Fark, somehow still holding strong.

                        • mitchell_h 31 minutes ago

                          A name I hear about once a year and still somehow surprised. I was a totalfarker back in like ~2000. was a great place.

                          • hackingonempty 16 minutes ago

                            Florida is still a state.

                        • tbrownaw an hour ago

                          It's decentralized but still has central servers that can be overwhelmed?

                          • Bender an hour ago

                            It's decentralized but still has central servers that can be overwhelmed?

                            Yes, the self hosted servers register with a centralized server to check for a license and to optionally list that server in the centralized list of public servers. Teamspeak can be hosted for free but has client restrictions that can be overcome with a license.

                            On a related note, Mumble self hosted servers can also register with a centralized server if the server owner wishes to have it listed for public use. This is optional as the server owner can also just advertise the connection details on a website and/or in Discord. Mumble [1] has no concept of a license to operate however. There is a light-weight version of the Mumble server called uMurmur that can run on a Linux router or RasPi but the channel configuration is statically defined ahead of time on uMurmur. The full blown version is just called Murmur and by default uses sqlite but it can also use a database like MySQL or MariaDB for storing persistent data like user registrations, channels, bans, and server configuration. .

                            https://www.mumble.info/

                            • giancarlostoro 42 minutes ago

                              Mumble would be my bigger recommendation for a truly open source Discord alternative, though I'm personally more invested in XMPP as an alternative.

                              • foresto 15 minutes ago

                                Mumble is fantastic for voice chat. Its text features are very basic, though, so people fleeing Discord would probably want something additional to handle that. Maybe Matrix.

                                • ecshafer 3 minutes ago

                                  A single location is a good selling point. Being able to jump into a voice chat, and still post things in a shared text chat is a good feature. Mumble should work a bit on that.

                            • progval an hour ago

                              It's decentralized because you can run a server yourself, but they also offer hosting services.

                            • Winblows11 41 minutes ago

                              > Like so many things from history, this is all Britain’s fault. The farcical UK Online Safety Act is forcing all social media platforms and adult-oriented websites to require age verification checks before its citizens can access them

                              I guess no other US state or country has demanded age checks, great journalism from kotaku...

                              • PunchyHamster 28 minutes ago

                                The things in politics have a habit of spreading outside of country's borders, as politicians in other countries just go "huh, that's nice kind of oppresion, and their population didn't totally revolt so maybe we should try"

                                Also technically US is fault of UK too

                              • CrzyLngPwd an hour ago

                                I haven't gamed for years, but decades ago TS was the solution for team play.

                                Such fond memories of playing in a team of people scattered all over the world.