• theothertimcook 19 hours ago

    “the Victorian government introduced extra land tax for investors, amounting to about $1,300 a year for a property worth $650,000. A levy on platforms such as Airbnb and expanded taxes on vacant properties and land came soon after.”

    Along with strong and consistent new construction are cited as the drivers behind this but the catalyst has been remote work and the COVID lockdowns.

    Victoria’s lockdowns were particularly onerous and many Melbournites realised they could move to south east QLD and pocket the potentially massive difference between the QLD and VIC properties, while still earning capital city $$$ and having better weather.

    Melbourne will surge again eventually as their government takes a long view on infrastructure while QLD is adversarial to public utilities.

    • tencentshill 11 hours ago

      That sounds like common sense. People who own homes and don't live in the country, let alone that property should be last on the list.

      • Schiendelman 14 hours ago

        Have you seen an analysis of the relative impact of the taxes versus allowing growth versus external factors?

      • rurban 15 hours ago

        Just left from a month work there, and what I heard is that everybody is moving from Melbourne to Mildura, because more affordable, more work, and less needles in the parks and beaches.

        • empressplay 19 hours ago

          I recently returned to Melbourne after being away for 5 years. They've been building a lot, particularly in the Western suburbs, and in satellite towns. Also there are a lot more people working remote / hybrid and living farther out in the country. A house in a smaller city like Bendigo is $400+ a week. But I expect this has been driving prices in Melbourne down -- but I'd hardly call it 'affordable' at ~$500 a week for a small house.

          • squishington 19 hours ago

            Competition at the $500 per week range is intense, because there are many people who can't afford more than that.

            • rkomorn 19 hours ago

              Off topic but: seeing rent measured per week is so very strange (to me; and I suspect to most Europeans and US/Canadians).

              • BirdieNZ 19 hours ago

                It's not uncommon in NZ/Aus to be paid weekly and pay rent weekly. I find monthly rent to be just as strange!

                • lesuorac 17 hours ago

                  Somebody needs to teach NZ/Aus the concept of the float.

                  I worked somewhere they moved payday by 1d explicitly for financial reasons ...

                  • rkomorn 19 hours ago

                    Let's split the difference and go bi-weekly. Or bi-monthly. Or some other arbitrary period we can define "ambiguously".

                    • roenxi 15 hours ago

                      You don't need to argue it out with HN, if you want to negotiate landlords generally are happy to at least consider it. I've paid rent as an annual lump sum before.

                      • nandomrumber 18 hours ago

                        Olympic swimming pools of rent.

                        • rkomorn 18 hours ago

                          That sounds like a lot. Like, Uncle Scrooge amounts.

                    • freefaler 14 hours ago

                      Landlords earn more that way, because months are 28,30,31 days but weeks are constant 52/year, even in leap years.

                      • rkomorn 13 hours ago

                        The house always wins, I guess.

                      • dzhiurgis 15 hours ago

                        Makes more sense since most live week-by-week. Similar to how AM/PM notation makes more sense since it's how we tell time. US date format is harder to defend, but...

                        • rkomorn 13 hours ago

                          I'll be called a heretic but, a couple of years ago (after being back in a country that uses day/month/year instead of the US), I came to the conclusion that the month/day notation is actually more useful to me.

                          Quite often, the month of the date is more relevant to me than the day. Knowing at a glance whether something is happening in the same month as the current day, or in the same month as some other date, is more convenient, as is being able to easily group things by month visually.

                          And yeah, I can definitely acknowledge month/day/year makes no sense, but it works for me.