• parkaboy 2 days ago

    UCLA has a $10B endowment. I find it bollocks that they and these other academic institutions can't just dip into that for their researchers to (hopefully) ride out the current funding situation at a minimum.

    • dekhn 2 days ago

      It's not bollocks, the endowments are contributions that have constraints on their spending. They cannot legally redirect much of the endowment towards these researchers in the way you want. Instead, they use the endowment as an investment that produces interest which is spent on operating expenses.

      • tgma 2 days ago

        The way you describe it as if a widow is reaching out to interest from a nest egg to get by and I got a little tear.

        But since I do know better:

        - some of these endowments grow over time to infinity.

        - that's tax-free gain/interest and any hedge fund would kill to get that special treatment.

        As long as they have such special tax treatment, it is only fair they should stay in line with a framework that taxpayers provide.

        • dekhn a day ago

          No endowment grows over time to infinity; that's hyperbole (and impossible).

          The tax-free status - that's definitely something that could be changed by updating the laws (legislative). That sounds a lot better than the executive division starving UCLA of funds.

          • tgma a day ago

            - Infinity is not a number. "To infinity" means grows without bounds (under the current underlying system; now I do agree the system will at some point adjust.)

            - Politics operates in reality, not ideals. There would never be such a legislation without a forcing function like this.

        • eviks a day ago

          Is this just a general dismissal or so you know the actual number?

          > They cannot legally redirect much of the endowment

          Since endowments at top universities are huge, they don't need much. So how much before it's "illegal"?

        • bad_haircut72 2 days ago

          Maybe Tao cares about the long term health of the university, is against the policies that are hurting it (and the entire country if USA loses its top position as desirable academic hub) and wants to use his fame for something useful

          • intermerda 2 days ago

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            • dang 2 days ago

              Please don't cross into personal attack.

              https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

              • veggieroll 2 days ago

                The vast majority of people talking about how big university endowments are don't care what the rules are on it. It's not that people don't know how endowments work; they just find the rules to be bullshit to justify universities continuing the status quo.

            • andsoitis 2 days ago

              Why doesn’t UCLA or the University of California system (UCLA is a part), solve this for Tao’s program so that he can focus on the things he is uniquely positioned to do? I suppose it could’ve because he IS the marketing…

              • qwerpy 2 days ago

                The headline "Terence Tao focused on fundraising after federal funding to UCLA was suspended" also makes for better marketing than "UCLA diverts tiny part of massive war chest to address temporary funding issue".

                • stiglitz 2 days ago

                  That doesn’t seem like an accurate synopsis of the article at all.

                  • Yeul 2 days ago

                    The headline should be that America no longer has free and independent universities and is speed running China.

                    • Larrikin 2 days ago

                      Maybe the USSR, China still seems to be innovating.

                  • momoschili 2 days ago

                    These days the thing he is most unique positioned to do is not math, it's getting funding.

                  • yurivish 2 days ago