• meonkeys 18 hours ago

    Should be: ...Tested for Impaired Cognition

    • fhars 17 hours ago

      Yeah. How could 1950's science fiction be so wrong?

      • cbdevidal 16 hours ago

        My stupid butt imagined new mutant superpowered insects like the Brain from Pinky and the Brain

        • ghurtado 14 hours ago

          Well, to be fair, that's what that stupid title is designed to make you think

          • grues-dinner 12 hours ago

            Show pitch: Pinky and the Brain but the Brain is a brain bug from Starship Troopers.

            • no_wizard 11 hours ago

              I was thinking Rachni[0][1]

              [0]: https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Rachni

              [1]: origins have to start somewhere

          • layer8 15 hours ago

            They only seem to be testing individual bees though, not the hive mind.

            • folkrav 14 hours ago

              Is there any scientific basis for some kind of shared collective thought I don’t know about? In other words, what’s the “hive mind” if not the collective result of individual minds?

              • AlecSchueler 13 hours ago

                Changes in behaviour in the individual level might result in an apparent cognitive decline for that individual, but could still benefit the hive as a whole.

                • folkrav 12 hours ago

                  I was asking about the concept of “hive mind”. Is the concept accepted as a “thing”, has it ever been measured in any way, and if yes, what is it?

                  • AlecSchueler 12 hours ago

                    Yes, it's the idea that the colony exhibits behaviour with a level of intelligence impossible for any of the single bees. Things like choosing the location of the nest or managing the temperature of the nest, there's various decisions "made" by the colony as a kind of emergent property of the behaviour of the individual bees who themselves don't have the capacity to think at that level. The various aspects of colony behaviour have all been individually studied by quite a few people and groups, yes.

                    • s1artibartfast 11 hours ago

                      I think you are missing the point of the question, and it revolves around calling it a mind capable of decisions.

                      • AlecSchueler 11 hours ago

                        Am I? I just mentioned there's research that shows a colony of bees can make decisions that individual bees are incapable of. What am I misunderstanding?

                        • glenstein 2 hours ago

                          Crowds of people, as an average, are more accurate at guessing the number of beans in a jar at a county fair than individual people, but not because there's such a thing as cognition manifesting at the group level in any literal sense.

                          I think you're making an interesting point, but I think you're attempting to point to a hive mind like it's the only pertinent topic when it comes to cognition of bees, as if testing for cognitive capabilities of individuals was a misunderstanding. But it's not a misunderstanding, it's part of what I think is some pretty explosively important research testifying to insect, cognition and even consciousness. At least speaking for myself, if the research holds, for me it necessitates a mind-blowing reevaluation of the internal lives of at least some insects.

                  • kbelder 11 hours ago

                    If human society changed so that average individual intelligence decreased, but the human race as a whole acted more intelligently, did human intelligence increase or decrease?

                  • lupire 13 hours ago

                    Why are they testing a whole brain instead of individual neurons? What is a brain if not the collective result of individual neurons?

                    • folkrav 12 hours ago

                      The comparison only works if the concept of a “hive mind” is as accepted and defined as the concept of a brain, which is quite literally what I was asking.

                      • collingreen 11 hours ago

                        "Hive mind" conjures ideas of an omnipresent, all-controlling intelligence to me like startrek's borg, but I think this is more about the idea of a "superorganism" [0] like some bees and most ants where the group exhibits traits and "behavior" and "decisions" as a whole, beyond the ability of any single, specialized individual. Less superintelligence and more emergent behavior and complexity.

                        [0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superorganism

              • alex_suzuki 18 hours ago

                Nitpick: the article mentions that the bees are tracked with QR Codes, but I find that hard to believe, given the space constraints. In one photo it looks like it is an ArUco marker.

                • diggan 17 hours ago

                  2mm QR codes according to the article:

                  > The protocol used at Fukushima is automated. Each bee is equipped with a 2-mm-wide QR Code which is read by a camera, activating the opening of the maze.

                  But yeah, doesn't look like a QR code at all, are there possibly different variations of QR codes? Haven't heard about that myself.

                  • blueflow 17 hours ago

                    I can imagine the journalist referring to all Matrix Codes as "QR".

                    • wanderingstan 15 hours ago

                      This is it. All matrix codes are now commonly referred to as “QR Codes”. I’ve noticed this especially at airports where both passengers and gate agents refer to the “QR codes” on boarding passes. (Which are IIRC Aztec codes)

                    • thaumasiotes 15 hours ago

                      In China the normal word is 二维码 "two-dimensional code".

                      • noduerme 12 hours ago

                        is a barcode a one-dimensional code?

                        • collingreen 11 hours ago

                          Yes - even though it obviously has visual height the data only runs in one dimension. For the 2D codes like QR the data is in both directions, which is why orientation often comes up in their design.

                    • ChrisMarshallNY 15 hours ago

                      Anyone remember these?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Capacity_Color_Barcode

                      Haven't seen one in ages.

                      • diggan 13 hours ago

                        We have something similar in Barcelona (maybe entire Spain? Apparently called NaviLens, colored squares rather than triangles) all around public transit points. They're used for blind people to navigate the public transit system :)

                        > As users sweep their environment with a smartphone, audio cues allow them to find and center the tag in the phone’s field of view. A shake of the wrist prompts the details contained within the tag to be read out (visually impaired people are often holding a guide dog or cane with their other hand). https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/06/06/135057/these-col...

                        • alex_suzuki 14 hours ago

                          Never saw one of those in the wild. But I have seen NaviLens codes (on cereal packaging), they use color as well: https://www.navilens.com/en/

                          • randall 14 hours ago

                            they’re at every new york subway station. i don’t know why.

                            • ChrisMarshallNY 13 hours ago

                              Surprised that they are still there.

                              It’s an old Microsoft standard. I’m pretty sure that MS rolled it up, years ago, so they may not be valid, anymore.

                        • alex_suzuki 15 hours ago

                          There‘s MicroQR, which is just a single finder pattern of a regular QR code, with some adjoining data. But it doesn’t look like one.

                          • ants_everywhere 12 hours ago
                          • numpad0 17 hours ago

                            TIL: Wikipedia does not have a standalone article for ArUco markers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARTag

                            • traceroute66 13 hours ago

                              There's something called a bCode...

                              https://theapiarist.org/barcoding-bees/

                              • tokai 15 hours ago

                                Nitpick: QR code is widely used as a generic term for matrix barcodes.

                              • Thorrez 18 hours ago

                                >Although the results of the study have yet to be published, scientists are already reporting a decline in insect cognition in the contaminated area of Fukushima Prefecture.

                                • blueflow 17 hours ago

                                  Troll-tier conclusion: Human presence improves cognition in insects

                                  • IAmBroom 17 hours ago

                                    Scientific research causes cancer in mice.

                                    That's actually a fact; there are specific bloodlines prone to cancers.

                                    • gus_massa 16 hours ago

                                      I can see a direct relation in this test, but it may be my lack of imagination or knowdledge...

                                      Anyway, animals in islands without predators lose escape hability, in particular the dodo.

                                      • GuB-42 8 hours ago

                                        The conclusion is (emphasis mine):

                                        Although the results of the study have yet to be published, scientists are already reporting a decline in insect cognition in the contaminated area of Fukushima Prefecture. "We can see correlations," Armant says. "However, a causal link with radioactive contamination has not yet been established. But since the area is no longer inhabited, it is unlikely that the effect is due to factors such as pesticides."

                                        So, when people leave the area, insect cognition decline, therefore human presence improves cognition in insects.

                                    • miohtama 18 hours ago

                                      Teenage Mutant Ninja Bees

                                      • blackoil 18 hours ago

                                        Have we tried increasing cognition by selective breeding. Get mice best at maze to breed 100 descendants and repeat it few times, with varying food supply and survival difficulties.

                                        • giraffe_lady 16 hours ago

                                          This gets you mice that are better at navigating mazes. The connection between that and general cognition or learning capacity is not as robust as you would hope. Just as likely they simply have better peripheral vision or something.

                                          • Traubenfuchs 17 hours ago
                                          • bornfreddy 14 hours ago

                                            Whoever has put the tag on that hornet in the last photo is a hero in my eyes. Things people do for science...

                                            • giardini 14 hours ago

                                              The Green Hornet!

                                            • cs702 18 hours ago

                                              Perfect fodder for a horror movie script.

                                              • sunrunner 17 hours ago

                                                > Each bee is equipped with a 2-mm-wide QR Code

                                                I'm not sure why but this sentence feels vaguely menacing.

                                              • crackleware 18 hours ago

                                                we should send contaminated insects to Mars

                                              • jonathaneunice 15 hours ago

                                                Future research should also test for induced meta-insect superpowers.

                                                "Fukushima was a massive disaster. It was also Arthur Buzzby's origin story."

                                                • dudeinjapan 18 hours ago

                                                  If the bees were exposed to radiation, shouldn't we be testing them for super-powers?

                                                  • jebronie 16 hours ago

                                                    this isn't reddit

                                                    • blackoil 18 hours ago

                                                      OR try getting teenagers stung by them.

                                                      • MaxZero101 17 hours ago

                                                        The power to make honey and die after using your stinger?

                                                        • IAmBroom 16 hours ago

                                                          The Fantastic 4,000 versus Wasp Man!