• dang 8 hours ago

    Related. Others?

    Spiped – symmetric, encrypted, authenticated pipes between sockets - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7539499 - April 2014 (86 comments)

    • kyledrake 3 hours ago

      Spiped is excellent, I use it in production for really critical stuff and it's rock solid. Seriously one of the best pieces of software ever written. I've never even once had to debug a problem with it, it just works.

      • maples37 8 hours ago

        > This is similar to 'ssh -L' functionality, but does not use SSH and requires a pre-shared symmetric key.

        I already have SSH set up and functional, what advantage does spiped offer?

        • unsnap_biceps 6 hours ago

          I'm presuming this is pretty similar to https://www.stunnel.org

          We would use stunnel rather than SSH for non-interactive usages. Having an active stunnel running all the time is safer than requiring a full SSH session being active.

          • tptacek 4 hours ago

            stunnel predates spiped by quite some time; spiped is a reaction to stunnel --- specifically, a network hole punch for people who trust neither OpenSSL nor OpenSSH's attack surface.

            Today, most people would just use WireGuard for this.

          • 0xCMP 7 hours ago

            iirc spiped uses TLS/OpenSSL for securing the connection, the symmetric key avoids the key-exchange and worrying about certificates, and therefore is better capable of efficiently using the connection than SSH by itself.

            Because it's much simpler it's also a good way to expose a system to the internet, although Wireguard with a PSK is a very similar and possibly superior solution.

        • joshbaptiste 3 hours ago

          I no longer have SSH listening on the bare internet on my VPS nodes .. I either place spiped in front of the standard daemon or disable it entirely and utilize Tailscale SSH

          • cylinder714 3 hours ago

            I posted this in response to the news that Kazakhstan is blocking Wireguard connections entirely:

            https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45054598

            • cylinder714 an hour ago

              Uzbekistan!