• intofarlands 4 hours ago

    I created an interactive map overlaying Apostle Paul’s 20,000km of journeys on a 1st century Roman Roads network, with modern vs. ancient cities and site photos. The base map utilizes the Digital Atlas of the Roman Empire (DARE), which was embedded into ArcGIS, with all four of Paul’s journeys with every stop added. The Roman Roads map can also be switched to a modern map to compare the ancient vs. modern locations.

    This is part of a personal project I am embarking on called Kingdoms Collide, where I plan to retrace every step of Paul’s journeys across the ancient Roman Roads.

    • teytra 3 hours ago

      Interesting. Is it possible to add what sources you use for each datapoint? The Acts and Epistles of course (verse numbers would be nice), but you use more sources, right?

      • intofarlands 3 hours ago

        Thanks for checking it out! I have the verse references, with plans to add all the relevant verses within the box as well.

        Most of the locations are known historically, however some could benefit with additional sources, such as Malta. I will try to add those as well

        • turing_complete 3 hours ago

          It already shows the sources if you click on the markers

        • bambax 2 hours ago

          Magnificent project, congrats!

          Is ArcGIS free for this kind of project?

          • intofarlands 2 hours ago

            Thank you!

            Yes, it is free through ArcGIS Online, their web-based mapping software

        • parodysbird 2 hours ago

          I'd recommend looking into adding a speculative final journey he might have taken to Spain. He mentions plans to go there in Romans, and other sources like 1 Clement and Jerome suggest he actually went there. The city of Tarragona has a tradition that he visited, as a speculative destination to map.

          • fsiefken an hour ago

            What a nicely done narrative presentation and container (ArcGIS etc) of travel. Immersive 360 degree pictures might be nice to add.

            There's a 1990 board game about Paul's travels with a similar map, but with less narrative detail, it's more about immersion and play. Tom Vasel wrote a review: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/100649/review-journeys-of-p...

            Campaign variant: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/127941/missionary-campaigns...

            Other - a bit more crunchy and modern board games that feature a little bit of Paul are Commissioned (2016) and The Acts (2018) & expansions - both games can be solo'd - good for personal immersion in the topic of church history, community building or friction.

            # Bart Ehrman on the Pauline timeline:

            https://www.bartehrman.com/story-of-paul-in-the-bible/

            https://www.bartehrman.com/apostle-paul-timeline/

            https://www.bartehrman.com/historical-paul/

            # Academic research bridging archeology and the letters of Paul

            https://rbecs.org/2020/07/03/nasrallah/

            • andretti1977 2 hours ago

              Beautiful work, no other words.

              I’ve always thought it would be cool to build a side project like OpenStreetMap, where people can mark the places traveled by famous historical figures — kind of like what you did with Paul’s journey, but open to any historical figure. Do you know if there’s anything like that out there?

              • maxweylandt 36 minutes ago

                neat! Small typo in 'Paul's first Journey' :

                >This first trip laid the framework for hsi other trips further afield.

                should be 'his'

                • Mistletoe 3 hours ago

                  How did Paul make money and buy food for the journeys?

                  • bdcravens a few seconds ago

                    In addition to the exact work he did, it was an early church value to work, rather than depend on external funding:

                    "If one doesn't work, one shouldn't eat"

                    https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Thessalonians%203%...

                    • intofarlands 3 hours ago

                      Paul financially supported himself as a tentmaker (See Acts 18:3 - “There he met a Jew named Aquila, a native of Pontus, who had recently come from Italy with his wife Priscilla, because Claudius had ordered all Jews to leave Rome. Paul went to see them, 3 and because he was a tentmaker as they were, he stayed and worked with them.”)

                      There are also other mentions he was a tentmaker.

                      • tetris11 an hour ago

                        > tentmaking

                        For anyone wondering

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentmaking

                        > ... in which missionaries support themselves by working full-time in the marketplace with their skills and education, instead of receiving financial support from a Church.

                        • chad_oliver 34 minutes ago

                          Just to be clear, Paul literally made tents. The meaning of "tentmaking" that you quote came later by analogy with Paul.

                        • Mistletoe 3 hours ago

                          Interesting. I’ve just gone down a rabbit hole and seen Thomas Jefferson call Paul the first corrupter of Jesus’ teachings and I’m seeing everything in a brand new way. It makes a lot of sense.

                          • photios 2 hours ago

                            TIL Jefferson published his own "version" of the New Testament. [1]

                            > Jefferson mashed up/cut and pasted the New Testament to remove any references to the supernatural, or miracles, as well as the divinity of Christ. His title for the book was "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth," which tells us a lot about his motivations.

                            Walking in Arius' footsteps ...

                            [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/dnyxy8/thoma...

                            • parodysbird 2 hours ago

                              It is very strange the amount of theology that comes solely from Paul's idiosyncratic writings, given that he neither met the prophet in question (Jesus), nor was taught by any of his students (apostles), nor even got along particularly well with any of his students.

                              • dragonwriter 2 hours ago

                                > It is very strange the amount of theology that comes solely from Paul's idiosyncratic writings, given that he neither met the prophet in question (Jesus), nor was taught by any of his students (apostles), nor even got along particularly well with any of his students.

                                It's interesting that every point of this narrative conflicts with the canonical accounts (even excluding the Pauline corpus for this purpose), in which Paul did encounter Jesus, and did at least spend time with (we aren't explicitly told it was spent in study, but presumably it was not exclusively in silent meditation) with disciples of Jesus between the encounter and conversion experience and the start of his ministry, and he got along as well with the other apostles as the other apostles they did with each other.

                              • bambax 2 hours ago

                                Interesting! It's possible though that Paul invented the concept of Jesus, which was later made into a "real" person/story.

                                • fjfaase 4 minutes ago

                                  According to the 'Acts of the Apostles', Paul (then still called Saul) was actively prosecuting the followers of Jesus, which by many were considered to be a Jewish sect, like there were more of such sects.

                                  It was on one of this prosecution trips that he experienced a medical condition that lead to temporary blindness, which he interpreted as a divine intervention, resulting him to join the sect.

                                  • photios 2 hours ago

                                    That's doubtful.

                                    To do that, St. Paul would need to make all the other 12 apostles buy into the story and start spreading it. Then do the same with the extended 70 apostles and their disciples. And, of course, change the gospels.

                                    In addition, the "concept of Jesus" is something that's woven throughout the Old Testament. St. Paul would have to go back in time and change the Torah and books of prophets like Daniel and Isaiah.

                                    • fjfaase 18 minutes ago

                                      An argument against the position that the "concept of Jesus" is woven throughout the Old Testament is that the Jews did not accept him as such. And yes, I do know about all the 'christian' reasons why that did not happen, but it is rather obvious that there is no need to rewrite the Torah and books of prophets like Daniel and Isaiah.

                                      • photios 2 minutes ago

                                        > no need to rewrite the Torah and books of prophets like Daniel and Isaiah

                                        Funny you mention that. Because those Jews (not all of them, mind you) that did not accept the Messiah did try to change the book of Isaiah. The mental gymnastics about the "Almah" translation continue to this day.

                                        https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/isaiah-714-a-v...

                                      • jacquesm an hour ago

                                        He would have written a self-help book for wannabe cult starters titled 'How to get your first 12 customers'.

                                        What is interesting about this project is that it cleanly splits off the real and verifiable components from the fantastic bits.

                                      • ab5tract 2 hours ago

                                        That feels like a real stretch considering that Paul is responsible for starting the branch of Christianity that would eventually outlaw any “non-canonical” books about Jesus. Said books would never even have existed if it was true that Paul invented the character of Jesus whole cloth.

                                        • bambax 2 hours ago

                                          The erradication of non-canonical books came way later. There was no such thing at first (during at least the first two centuries following Paul's life).

                                          • balamatom 40 minutes ago

                                            Does remind of an intellectual property crackdown some. "Only we get to tell this story"

                                  • parodysbird 2 hours ago

                                    He was also a Roman citizen, so he could pull some privileges for free rides like getting to Rome through exercising his right to appeal directly to the Emperor

                                    • shusaku an hour ago

                                      As an American, I’m planning a similar strategy to finance my vacation to Ecuador.

                                    • palmotea 3 hours ago

                                      Didn't he work as a tentmaker? Also I'd imagine he got a lot of support along the way.