• pamelafox 9 hours ago

    So much keeps getting discovered about dinosaurs! If you want to catch up on the last 20 years of research, particularly on the feathered front, I recommend this book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23394100-flying-dinosaur...

    (As the mum of a 5 yr old and 3 yr old, I feel obligated to become an expert on all things dinosaur.)

    • temp0826 8 hours ago

      > (As the mum of a 5 yr old and 3 yr old, I feel obligated to become an expert on all things dinosaur.)

      As an uncle to an obsessed 3 year old I concur! My jaw dropped when he rattled off "pachycephalosaurus" and I had to look it up to confirm (he might have added a syllable or two but that's ok)

      • pamelafox 7 hours ago

        There's a pachycephalosaurus in this book! https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1646380428/

        (I think I'm actually the obsessed one, to be honest, but I like to blame my children for my own obsessions)

        • temp0826 7 hours ago

          Ooo I'll have to check with his mother if he has it already thanks!

        • marai2 5 hours ago

          Also as an uncle to a 3 year old, I could not believe a 3 year old could know the names and pronunciations! of 2x far more dinosaurs than me!

        • bobxmax an hour ago

          The fascination between young boys and dinosaurs must be studied. There's something imprinted in the DNA for it to be so common lol.

          • danielbln an hour ago

            Not just boys, my 5yo girl is fascinated by them.

          • jxjnskkzxxhx 6 hours ago

            Can this book be trusted? I don't think the author is an expert...

            • graemep 5 hours ago

              A good writer who can put together stuff, interview different experts, etc. can put together something very good. I can think of plenty of books like that. They cite research and quote experts.

              It has some advantages over a book written by a single expert: most importantly, it can cover multiple points of view and cover controversies more impartially.

              One of the problems with expert views is that they often fail to distinguish between what is well proven, what is a current consensus because its a best guess, and what is a personal opinion/pet theory.

              • jxjnskkzxxhx 2 hours ago

                > One of the problems with expert views is that they often fail to distinguish between what is well proven, what is a current consensus because its a best guess, and what is a personal opinion/pet theory.

                I was in the academia for some years and didn't find in my field any expert that was incapable of distinguishing well proven Vs opinion. That might be the defining characteristic of an "expert".

                Maybe we just have different definitions of expert? To you and expert is someone who just defends his pet theory, and to me an expert is the same as the rest of the scientific world understands it.

                Confusing someone whose job is to push their pet theory with an expert makes you sound like you've had very little exposure to science.

                • graemep an hour ago

                  > I was in the academia for some years and didn't find in my field any expert that was incapable of distinguishing well proven Vs opinion.

                  They are capable of it, but they do not always bother to do it when talking to a non-academic audience.

                  One example that comes to mind is how advice on diet has changed over the years because advice was given (e.g. avoid dietary cholesterol) that was not well proven. Another was the introduction to a fascinating book I read a few years ago on the complexities of evolution (e.g. genetic changes with multiple effects, gene transfer, etc.). In the introduction the authors explained that colleagues had pressured them not to publish because it differed from the simple model of evolution taught in schools so would encourage creationists.

                  Economists are often biased towards their own political opinions.

                  • ralusek an hour ago

                    To play devil's advocate, I think there is some merit to their point. A common criticism against modern academia is that so much of the low hanging fruit has been addressed, that to be an expert working on the actual frontier means your "leaf node" of focus/progress is so so specific, that it's not at all uncommon to be somewhat blinded to the broader consensus/lower resolution version of the greater tree of knowledge.

                    The experts of the kind to which you're presumably referring, who are much more tapped in to the whole state of a broad branch of knowledge, often end up being more "science communicators" than people on the frontier of research. The thing is, though, that these "science communicators" often end up being (or start off being) more akin to a papers/Wikipedia jockey than a credentialed academic actively working in the field. So in that sense, someone who "knows a lot about dinosaurs and can effectively write about them as the broader field currently perceives them" need not necessarily be a credentialed expert.

            • stavros an hour ago

              Ok I'm confused, I thought consensus nowadays was that dinosaurs had feathers, yet the impressions here are both leathery? What's our current best guess? Also, what animal has a leathery covering like that, rather than scales or supple skin?

              • ufo a minute ago

                It depends of the dinosaur. Large ones, like t.rex, had fewer feathers.

                • apt-apt-apt-apt an hour ago

                  Leathery makes more sense than feathers– imagine how much body heat you'd generate if you were 15K lbs (t-rex). You'd want to get rid of as much heat as possible, rather than putting on a thick sweater, or you'd overheat and die.

                • tmtvl an hour ago

                  That second artist impression is pretty nice. I wonder what non-avian dinosaur plumage felt like.

                  • HelloUsername 4 hours ago

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