For many years at FB, suffixing dangerous or really-deprecated tokens with `_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED` was the standard. Everyone[^1] was in on the joke.
In the middle of the pandemic when ~50% of the workforce had started post-2020, it and other things became complaints for causing fear/uncertainty. We didn't do the best job on-boarding remote people and making them feel part of the culture at that time.
[^1]: It was a big company so this statement could only be true in the circles I had access to.
I remember seeing this in React's __SECRET_INTERNALS_DO_NOT_USE_OR_YOU_WILL_BE_FIRED, and I've always enjoyed similar lighthearted and unwieldingly-long names.
Unfortunately I see it too has fallen victim to defunnification: https://github.com/facebook/react/pull/28789
Fun names are OK, but only if they don't introduce ambiguity. In this case the change wasn't so much anti-fun as anti-ambiguity.
That's a great call-out, and it (along with the change itself) underlines the importance of not letting fun get in the way of actual engineering improvements. Defunnification as a side effect, if you will.
My favorite funny function in the Android source is android.os.Handler.runWithScissors() [1] - but (unfortunately) it is not part of the public API.
[1] https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/...
> @hide This method is prone to abuse and should probably not be in the API. If we ever do make it part of the API, we might want to rename it to something less funny like runUnsafe().
:D
For X11, from the top of my head:
The global variable that toggles a bunch of legacy cruft is called "party_like_its_1989": https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/blob/master/di...
The changelog for the DRI2 extension is "Awesomeness!", "True excellence", "Enlightenment attained" etc: https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.7/doc/dri2proto/dri2proto.t...
I miss the era of easter eggs in tech products. Kinda went away with the corporatization of everything.
> a hidden column in the Chrome task manager that shows how many goats a browser process has teleported
Was very dissatisfied to find this no longer works. Here's an old post with a screenshot: https://www.100-geek.net/articles/goats_teleported?action=ar...
From 234 columns to 16, what a purge.
Reminds me of BeOS (and now Haiku), which have "is_computer_on()" and "is_computer_on_fire()" both with great descriptions.
https://www.haiku-os.org/legacy-docs/bebook/TheKernelKit_Sys...
Reminds me of Delphi -- it has an exception 'EProgrammerNotFound'.
https://docwiki.embarcadero.com/Libraries/Athens/en/System.S...
With a completely serious (though short) documentation page I read as very, very dry humour.
I know it is trying to be funny. But those states are quite normal in modern computer with advanced power management. OS should handle wakeups from deep sleep, or state where temperature of motherboard is 200 celsius.
Unlikely. Nothing is specced beyond 140 Celsius and many parts not beyond 80.
That statement is far too general and also factually wrong e.g. HT83C51 is specced for operating temperatures of 225 deg Celsius
That's still not a chip where an OS would have to handle motherboard temperatures of 200C, like the original point though. An 8051 is going to be running bare metal. TI has some stuff in the C2000 line that can run FreeRTOS at 200C, but the overwhelmingly vast majority of chips on the market are rated to 150C max.
For the curious minds: https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/master/src/system/libroo...
looking around a bit, it's used as an example in the documentation:
https://github.com/haiku/haiku/blob/7d07c4bc739dbf90159a5c02...
This is actually a great reason to keep it around; it's as simple as possible, and nothing uses it so it's easy to find the relevant bits of code.
I like that this sense of humor is still preserved in such a huge company code base. You won't notice it when you use the API, but when you look at the source code, these little Easter eggs will remind you that there are real people behind the code. Compared with the cold feeling of many software nowadays, this contrast makes people feel warm. Honestly, maybe we need more of this.
I want to make replying to this thread a requirement for anybody I'm interviewing to hire. Also for anybody interviewing me. Truly a "2 kinds of people in this world" moment.
Why? Googlers adding jokes to APIs is about as funny as dad jokes at Christmas dinner.
So I know which of the 2 kinds of people in the world they are.
If you want to test the isUserAGoat and isUserAMonkey on you own device, I published this small app that does just that: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.trianguloy...
Maybe I can add these other easter eggs...
That would be quite fun, especially if you would have some thing that checks the DISALLOW_FUN policy. While doing a quick search on GitHub while reading the blog post to see if any Android apps with available source code were using it, all that came up were repositories containing code for the system Settings app locking away the version easter egg based on it. You might become the first third-party to use it!
On my device with Android 15 I can't install your app. Google enforces a minimum compielSdk now. Maybe you can upgrade it in your build :)?
If you check the app description, there's a GitHub link, which in turn has an f-droid link you can use.
But you're not missing out since `isUserAGoat()` will return false on Android >=11 anyway and `isUserAMonkey()` will return true if and only if you're using the monkey test suite.
This means jokes and humour in technical documentation. While it's often frowned upon, I love a bit of humour in docs. I wrote about this here:
This is why I refuse to use android
On OpenVMS, DCL (the shell and main scripting language of choice) had this as an exit code.
$ exit 2928 %SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels
The `<blink>` tag was an official part of early HTML standard, until teenagers showed up online and sanity prevailed. I suspect this could have been there to maintain compatibility with older webpages.
Yeah that's where the concept of the blink tag originates, the now deprecated HTML tag. But what's covered in the blog post refers specifically to a hidden (and AFAIK undocumented) blink tag that exists in the Android XML layout view system, which is an independent thing from the system WebView browser (that I assume probably still contains some code for blink tags, but that wouldn't be a surprising discovery). I don't know if there are any other built-in tags in Android views that really map to HTML tags otherwise.
It actually seems like there’s another Easter egg if you google “blink tag”: https://www.google.com/search?q=blink+tag
(Doesn’t seem to trigger on iOS, but works in Chrome and Firefox on desktop)
This blink is in a specific UI XML dialect, not HTML.
True, it has never been in an HTML standard, however it was definitely a documented part of early HTML.
The blink element was in Netscape Navigator's HTML dialect in 1993/94, when early HTML was still just hitting IETF RFCs / DRAFTs, you can find blink in the Netscape HTML developer documentation from just after that era, DevEdge. It was never in NCSA Mosaic, the other big GUI browser of the era.
Later on in the process of being standardized, when it was more W3C than IETF albeit still mainly the same people, Netscape agreed to drop blink from the proposals if Microsoft dropped marquee, so in that sense yes, it was never in a standardized version of HTML, but many tags in active use at the time were never in a standards doc.
See here https://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/book4/ch02.html for some history from w3c, who went on to become the formal custodians of HTML after the IETF days.
Edit: here's the earliest Netscape Developer Docs I can see on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/19961115043739/http://developer....
Looks like they finally set DISALLOW_FUN to true by default in latest Android release.
The Androids: The Team that Built the Android Operating System: link isn't working :(
oops, no idea why the link I put there didn't work. Just corrected it, ended up linking to the page about the book on Chet Haase's website instead: https://www.chethaase.com/androids
public static final String DISALLOW_FUN
Source: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/UserManag...
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How the hell did this pass code review? Are booleans strings on Android?
> How the hell did this pass code review? Are booleans strings on Android?
You are misreading the documentation, it's a key/value API.
`DISALLOW_FUN` is the string key you pass to `setUserRestriction`, which takes a boolean value.
That makes more sense. Thanks.
Also this is an enterprise policy constant, so it gets sent (and configured) as string/string dictionary via REST API from MDM backend. That's mostly because the constants can be of mixed types (e.g. "MAX_PASSWORD_CHARS" : "1", "DISALLOW_NETWORK_SWITCHING: "true" - example, constants not actual).
Someone else pointed out the reason for the datatype. A more subtle problem is the use of double negatives. Boolean APIs like "disable" will throw off users of your API.
Is there anything similar in the public iOS API?
How isUserAMonkey API came about: https://books.google.nl/books?id=68BZEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA96&lpg=PA...
To ensure that the monkey of a monkey test (an emulated user doing random taps) cannot do all possible actions.
https://books.google.nl/books?id=68BZEAAAQBAJ&pg=PA96&lpg=PA... "Bruce grew the lab over the years from an initial set of seven devices to more
than 400. He said there were some unanticipated problems to resolve over that time. "One day I walked into the monkey lab to hear a voice say, '911-What's your emergency?" That situation resulted in Dianne adding a new function to the API, isUserAMonkey(), which is used to gate actions that monkeys shouldn't take during tests (including dialing the phone and resetting the device)."
Interestingly, the original Mac had a similar MonkeyLives flag: https://folklore.org/Monkey_Lives.html
I assume that's the "The Monkey" testing tool for the original Mac that's mentioned in the footnotes in the Androids book. Supposedly goes back to the infinite monkey theorem that makes monkeys act as a metaphor for randomness, and it was also mentioned that one of the developers of Android had used the same kind of monkey testing for WebTV and Palm OS.
"image not available"
that's because you're not a monkey
Notice how pretty much none of these are added in the last 10 years?
Android's become 'more mature' - ie. Boring, and the joke to code ratio is dropping rapidly.
If you're 10 hours into debugging something, or you're swamped with a horde of bug reports and bad reviews, and after digging in you find the bug is in upstream code laced with humor, it comes off as if upstream isn't serious about software development or is making light of the responsibility. Lots of things start small, but X11, Android, etc etc are now used by millions, in lots of different situations, and humor is highly contextual.
> humor is highly contextual.
This is key. Writing jokes is easy, but it is much harder to guarantee that your joke is only displayed in appropriate contexts in the future. When what the author thought was a witty joke shows up in a new and inappropriate context, they no longer look very witty, but instead like a fool.
Good, I hate ‘funny’ code. Just get to the point, I’m not here for someone’s notionally hilarious inside joke from 18 years ago.
Ah I see you're one of those who would enable `UserManager.DISALLOW_FUN`!
I personally quite enjoy a bit of whimsy in code. What we do (mostly) isn't that serious (modulo those, including me once upon a time, who work on literal life and death software)
I think that's a big line between people who work as software engineers becuase they enjoy the work and want to build something and folks who go there to punch the ticket and run back home as soon as possible.
The second group doesn't want to deal with "all the fun crap" and "distractions" that stand in the way of them marking a bug fixed (or, god forbid, actually getting extra bugs/work assigned because some "fun" code might break or cause confusion).
As teams and companies grow, the second group usually outgrows the first and the first group moves on to reform into smaller teams working on something else again.
I have had my share of fun things I added to code/environment. Yet then we add 'the new guy'. They spend a long time arguing why that humor should not be there. One project it was a single line comment about new beginnings on the main procedure. That created a 2 hour rant about how unprofessional it was and months of unwarranted verbal abuse. It was literally the only piece of humor in the entire codebase. Super petty. Turned a fun functioning team into a slog of even wanting to go into work and all the rest of team reassigning themselves to other work. I use it as a litmus test these days of what I want to work with. Kind of tempted to add it to interview questions but have not found a proper way to do it.
Better to reassign 'the new guy', rather than let him destroy the team.
Things that seem fun when they are written are often not much so a few years later, without the initial context, when trying to actually "build something".
Fun is good when it is fresh. Fossilized fun is not that fun. It is more like that uncle who heavily tries to be fun at family parties.
Google is not fun and people that try to be funny from Google are cringe
Harking back to the days when people at Apple, Microsoft, Google and Bell Labs had fun. It really happened, allegedly!
The young one speaks with enlightenment beyond their years. If only we could all be so blessed.
I agree with you. The dinosaur game in Chrome is the classic example; turned off because schools threatened to not buy Chromebooks if kids could play a game in the browser. At least it seems to be a setting now, so your individual locality can decide if fun is allowed.
That’s quite different from what we’re talking about though. That’s adding games or fun into your product whereas in this specific sub-thread we’re talking about naming code concepts (functions, classes, variables, enums, etc) funny things.
When you’re building an API, it is your product.
Not to mention even just this article exposed a just-for-fun API that ended up having a negative effect and had to be removed:
`isUserAGoat` ended up allowing any caller to determine if a specific app is installed on the system, which is a privacy violation and allows fingerprinting against the user's consent.
I get the desire to make the job more fun than just implementing a spec, but many of the things we work on are very important and very complex, with oodles of real-world consequences. That unfortunately means everything we do has to be well-considered and not off-the-cuff.
I don't mind either personally, but I've had a few occasions where such things have caused issues with engineers that didn't have English as a 1st language.
A fair bit of time was wasted on trying to understand some joke/pun code and variable names, and on another occasion, spending the best part of a day working on something because they took some sarcasm in code/comments literally.
English is not my native language yet I love pun and joke in doc. If those hypothetical developers are wasting time on this, maybe they should just get better at English because there are important nuances that will fly over theirs head.
I couldn’t agree more. I work in a codebase that has a handful of these “fun”-named functions/concepts and I hate it. It wasn’t funny the first time I came across it (just very confusing) and it’s not fun having to explain to new hires why a few things are named the way they are.
It needlessly complicates reading/following the code. Even if you explain the naming back at where you define the function/variable it add an extra click-through/hover to read that and an extra translation you have to do in your head when you read the “fun” variable name in the future.
One example is we have a flag called “dinnerbell”. What does that do? It tells the server receiving that flag to “come and get it”, “it” being the full data object instead of just getting a delta. It could have been called a whole slew of other things that would make more sense.
Live a little. When you've passed away, was all the seriousness paid off?
That said, funny code should still work
There's a middle ground for sure. I've left a few witty comments and loglines in my time.
But I've also had to debug a Delphi unit which returned error codes inspired by the magical supercomputer Hex from the Discworld novels.
"Divide by cucumber error" is not a decent enough representation of a module's internal state, no matter how funny you think you are.
But a wholly non-funny "Invariant Violated" message would be no better. The problem isn't that the message is funny, but that it does not contain the information you need to understand what's going on. The whimsy is just a distraction.
Do you find that distracting things help you debug shoddy code?
They don't hurt, and it's fun to come across them. If the funny thing is used in one place, it can be memorable and easier to search for. If it's the equivalent of "error [error]" or whatever, I honestly don't care.
if "divide by cucumber" is a unique string in the code base, then yes?
Right. And how many of those can your brain fit?
Doesn’t matter. The important thing is that I can look them up or resolve them easily. Without looking it up can you tell me the difference between HTTP 451 and 510? If not they’re no more useful than I’m a teapot. But I can identify both of those uniquely and figure out where they’re coming from.
You can remember some of those by heart. Everybody knows what 404 means nowadays.
451 is also a bit whimsical btw – and that actually helps remember what it stands for (Unavailable For Legal Reasons).
"Divide by cucumber error" sounds like a great string to grep for - so actually helpful for developers to find the place in the code that threw it.
Who cares what happens after you’ve passed away. You’re dead.
Only the things that remain of you after death really matter, everything else will have gone completely then anyway.
No, even those don’t matter. You’re dead.
There are other people in the world.
Similar to not caring at all about the rest of society when you're alive, not caring at all about the rest of society when you're dead makes for a shitty society. You are not the world, there is an external reality (with people in it!), and you have obligations to it. I'm not a religious person, but it seems to me that religion helps or used to help with such things.
Who cares what happens after you’ve passed away.
Every single person who isn't you.
You are aware there are other people besides you, right?
The original comment said about doing it for yourself.
The point stands.
Me too. Professional code isn’t the right place to insert your personality or sense of humour.
I am in this camp as well. Even worse are cute error messages.
If software actually worked, then I'd be fine with more whimsy. But it doesn't, so I'm not.
It's even worse when you stumble upon a repo with already poor documentation, only to find it filled with silly jokes e.g. "You thought this would be easy, right? Well, that's what X thought too, but..." yeah, leave the storytelling aside please.
I've noticed that modern life is in general less fun than it was 10 years ago. It might be me getting older, but I'm sure there are bigger societal changes too. BTW I used to browse tcrf.net and it was so interesting that video game developers would leave pieces of themselves in their work. Love letters, old memes, angry letters, random shit, whatever. Meanwhile modern programming is all about pRoFeSsIoAnALisM and MaXiMiZiNg PrOdUcTiViTy at all costs.
> BTW I used to browse tcrf.net and it was so interesting that video game developers would leave pieces of themselves in their work. Love letters, old memes, angry letters, random shit, whatever.
This is quite dependent on the games you play. Modern games are becoming larger, which makes the project overall more serious and makes it harder to hide easter eggs. That being said, Indie games with small teams still contain a lot of fun and even AAAs can still contain some goodies.
Yes, it like a rite of passage from a startup to “mature” company. It’s like Google’s or Reddit’s April Fools jokes. Actually, the novelty of April fools jokes can probably be a KPI of how corporatized a company is.
I think it really is up to us to make things as fun as we want to see... There may be more minefields as we grow old (Can a senior pull a harmless prank on newly joined juniors without coming off as mean/threatening?), but at the same time these little joke comments/commit messages, pranks etc.. are what brought people closer together in every place I worked at so far...
I mean what other choice do we really have? let the fun police win?
How is someone writing an article about Android source code node nerdy enough to know what a Tricoder is? I don’t buy it
They are in their early 20s and not American¹. Why is that so hard to grasp?
Funny, when I was in my 20s and not British, I knew what a Dalek was because it was just part of the zeitgeist. Tricoders are frequently mentioned as one of the life imitating art type of things that modern tech is striving to take from sci-fi to IRL. I had never even seen an episode of Dr Who, but I was familiar with it because of all the other sci-fi/nerdy stuff I was into. Ironically, I did know what someone wearing an H on their forehead meant from watching Red Dwarf, but that’s a tangent. It just seems like a strange Venn diagram where source code android and Star Trek tricoder do not intersect would be a very odd diagram
I think you hit the nail on the head there, you and the author are simply from different cultural zeitgeists. I also remember Star Trek and Dr Who being a big deal, but I was entirely too young to care. And I continue not to care, since I don't watch live action shows much. Never seen an episode of Friends or Game of Thrones either for example. Just a starkly different generation and subculture.
Indeed. There is such an immense amount of media that is produced from decade to decade that nobody can ever know everything and understand "all" the references. Things that may seem like "things everyone know about" vary wildly between location and year ranges, and in the recent decades with the Internet there are just so many subcultures that all could be classified as "nerdy" but which lack a lot of overlap.
I suppose I'm too young to have watched Star Trek when it was really popular (and have all sorts of other blind spots when it comes to TV shows and other media even for people my age), but I've definitively heard about it. And I know some other references to it like Spock and the Vulcan salute, but the Tricorder had completely missed me until now.
Also, with something like GRAVITY_DEATH_STAR_I I could pretty easily tell it was a reference to something fictional (in that case Star Wars) since there is obviously no celestial body with that name. But with the Tricorder I was looking to actually make sure it's not some kind of actually real but vestigial hardware sensor thing that Android might have supported in the 00s, tangentially related to the Tricorder that was on Star Trek. I have certainly witnessed stranger coincidences.
Like Android still has functionality in the API for supporting trackballs, which I know used to be on some really early Android phones. So if that had been among the list as "there's this joke input device called a 'trackball' in the API, implying there are phones with a big physical ball you can roll around to move a cursor on the screen", that would be quite silly. Because it was a real and used thing in the past, even though nowadays it's more of a legacy feature (though might be a bad example as I assume you can connect input devices over USB or Bluetooth that may be treated as a trackball by Android).
> the other sci-fi/nerdy stuff I was into
I guess that’s your answer. People have different interests and as such there’s a virtually unlimited number of culture combinations that people can be into. And people can have white spots in places that are surprising to others, there’s only so much time.
It’s tricorder not tricoder.
Clearly, I was never a Trekkie.
The age makes sense, but Swedes are definitely into Star Trek https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.P.O.C.K
I think you're underestimating how Americanized Swedes are.
Who needs Star Trek when you have Vintergatan?
My fellow old person, Deep Space Nine came out 32 years ago. It's not something the nerds of today need to know. All these great sources of nerd allusions will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Not every nerdy person is into Star Trek?
Star Wars is imo way more mainstream than Star Trek these days (especially with Disney pumping it), but even then there are tons of people in their 20s working in tech who haven’t seen it and have no interest in it.
I don’t think there was more than one person on my previous Android team who would’ve gotten the Tricoder reference, and I was the youngest person there (29 years old at the time; learned about Tricoder literally just from this thread myself).
If you picked a random person working on Android source code and asked me to guess whether they know about Tricoder (without knowing any additional info about them), I would have decisively guessed “no”.
While I found it surprising at first I don't think it should be. Star Trek really doesn't seem to be as big as it used to be.
> Star Trek really doesn't seem to be as big as it used to be.
Hint: it was never big outside of the USA. If anything, Internet and the Hollywood reboots is the way most people outside of the USA learnt about it.
Also try to find Europe in the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_influence_of_Star_Tre...
Are you sure?
I'm Italian and we had Star Trek (all the films, all the shows, many of the books), and apparently the Star Trek Italian Club[0] was funded in 1982. I think Spock and Kirk were quite familiar to most people, and for sure as a nerd in the '00s everybody understood the joke of showing Bill Gates as a Borg on Slashdot.
[0] https://stic.it/
> , and for sure as a nerd in the '00s everybody understood the joke of showing Bill Gates as a Borg on Slashdot.
Everybody, Gates and Slashdot in one sentence.
There's a Swedish Star Trek-themed band that has been continually active since 1988 and are popular enough that they still do festivals in Sweden, Germany and other European countries every year https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.P.O.C.K
Very big in Germany imo. I came back from school and always watched back to back TNG and MacGyver. TNG and DS9 were big and aired nationally. My father grew up with Kirk & Spock and most people who were children in that generation and had access to a TV know the show, because there was not much else on TV. He's not a nerd at all :)
That’s just not true.
Both TOS and TNG aired in various European countries.
Adding to the comments: Not an American, but like others here watched TNG every day after school, and TOS before that. Many other people my age did, for example my wife.
BTW, we have watched with our sons all of TNG and DS9 for the last 3 years, and our eldest is now deeply familiar with Star Trek as a result. Very few of his peers are familiar with it, though.
I was never a big Star Trek fan, but here in Sweden growing up I watched episodes of The Next Generation, Voyager, and Deep Space Nine when they happened to be on. There definitely always seemed to be some Star Trek series running in a decent TV slot and everyone seemed aware of it - even if its popularity was eclipsed by that of Star Wars.
From friends and family in Belgium it seems it was somewhat bigger there.
It was aired even in Bangladesh (a tiny country in Asia), and I just fell in love with TNG, and the line: "Space the final frontier ..."
> Hint: it was never big outside of the USA.
Really? I must have grown up in an alternative universe. Star Trek TOS and TNG were aired on our local TV station in the 80s and 90s, IIRC even in the afternoon. I would be extremely surprised if I'd meet a 30+ person who grew up here (European country) and didn't know Star Trek.
Probably because it was dormant for a long time. And then when it was brought back, it was brought back by people who have no clue what made Star Trek good so it has largely sucked.
With the benefit of hindsight, I'd say that impression is more because every series is very different. TOS and TAS may have been similar to TNG seasons 1 and 2, but TNG got more thoughtful as it went on; DS9 was a very different show to both TOS and TNG, with long-term continuity and changes (beyond casting) that stuck, and far more shades of grey and where outright evil came with a smile and a charismatic speech rather than being a puddle of psychic oil; VOY had almost no continuity, making it the polar opposite of DS9, but most of the characters were interesting enough for a space soap opera; ENT was derided by many when it came out, because all the main plot arcs made no sense and they kept introducing old fan favourites that didn't make sense contextually because series set in the show's future had yet to meet the Borg, the Ferengi, etc. And while I've never seen Prodigy, I'm aware that was trying for a very different approach to exploring the cannon and had its own story to tell.
And famously, only the even-numbered films are any good (which doesn't mean all even films are good, e.g. Nemesis).
In this light: DIS throwing away an interesting premise and then going nuts; PIC being three seasons of "why did the scriptwriters put the Borg everywhere, when the main story is androids vs. Romulans, Q, and warcrimes(*?) against changelings leading to changeling terrorism?"; and the very much more pew-pew-lasers action films of Kelvin**… none of this is particularly shocking.
What's nice (for people like me) is that SNW and LD are both well-written and thoughtful — but again, very different shows.
SNW feels like it is trying to be the best of TOS, TNG, and DS9, even if it does have a bit of fan service with insufficiently justified presence of Kirk (James, the other one is fine).
LD is very very silly, but it works for me — not as a canonical set of events (Mariner is even less suitable a personality for a ship officer than is Burnham, and in the same way I can head-cannon all Q episodes as "Q is actually Barclay on the holodeck having a power fantasy", most of the main four cast feel to me like students LARPing trek on a holodeck), but rather I like it because the tries to "yes, and…" the show's existing cannon in ways that mostly work and the characters are fundamentally decent to each other 95% of the time (and when not, justified).
* Perhaps "crimes against humanity" would be a closer take, or whatever the term should be in a not-just-humans universe
** and Section 31 whose critical response is so low that I forgot it existed rather than watch it, and only remembered the existence of when looking at Wikipedia to check if Nemesis was even or odd
Nerds gatekeeping nerds. Truly old internet moment.
Not every interest comes with age. I am interesed in some antique stuff that's way older than me.
im 30 yo and i didnt know what a tricoder was
I'm sorry... please take this adorable tribble as a consolation!
Right? It could be an attempt at humor, but it could also be someone who is naive of culture before 2003. I lost some respect for the author at that point...
This is so american/age centric please reconsider dispensing respect based on who watched the same TV shows as you growing up