• philistine 7 days ago

    Massive news. One cannot shake the idea that Taiwan is playing all the cards it can to protect it from invasion. This is one; ingratiating itself within the core of American production.

    • aurareturn 7 days ago

      Why would this help Taiwan stave off China's advance? Arguably, this makes it more likely.

      • robertlagrant 7 days ago

        Yes that's my take as well. It might be TSMC trying to survive, and America trying to deprive themselves of a future war to defend TSMC or China's inevitable taking of TSMC.

        I don't see how it helps Taiwan that much, but perhaps it makes it less attractive to China to take if TSMC can move.

        • eagleislandsong 6 days ago

          > perhaps it makes it less attractive to China

          Taiwan's semiconductor industry is literally not even a factor that plays into China's wish to reunify. It won't make a lick of difference.

          • philistine 6 days ago

            It makes it more likely that the US responds in kind to an invasion.

            • aurareturn 5 days ago

              Why? US would have the ability to make advanced chips inside the US. Why would the US be more likely to respond?

      • poisonborz 7 days ago

        This reminds me of Adventure Time where Finn (US Government) tells a goose and a fox to "now kiss":

        https://youtu.be/XHgyD6UesJo?feature=shared&t=94

        • gotschi_ 7 days ago

          Oh god no please, no

          TSMC is a perfectly fine company. Let them do their thing intel!

          • bgnn 7 days ago

            TSMC has a lot if joint ventures like this. They are quite good at cross contaminating with their own fabs.

            • xeonmc 7 days ago

              Don’t you mean cross-pollination?

              • bgnn 3 days ago

                That's definitely a better term. Thanks!

          • rayiner 7 days ago

            Is there like a book or podcast on Intel’s downfall? As a 90s kid it seems unthinkable to me Intel would be dethroned so swiftly.

            • morgango 6 days ago

              Stratechery does an OUTSTANDING job covering Intel, TSMC, and chips.

              https://stratechery.com/?s=intel

              They were talking about this in 2013

              https://stratechery.com/2013/the-intel-opportunity/

              • bfrog 6 days ago

                Its happened before to any company that focuses too hard on short term profits and gets too comfortable.

                Motorola GE Boeing

                The list goes on…

                • Tempest1981 7 days ago

                  Chip War by Chris Miller is a great read, although not specifically Intel.

                  • maxnevermind 7 days ago

                    asianometry on YT

                    also stratechery had few articles over the years

                    • chneu 6 days ago

                      Asianometry rules. As someone who works in semiconductor research and manufacturing, his videos are crazy good.

                    • AbstractH24 7 days ago

                      As another 90s kid feels like there is some lesson here on how few things last forever

                      • Incipient 7 days ago

                        I think it's a good example of why monopolies and vendor lock-ins are bad. Essentially when there IS choice, people will go to the better option, and the market leader, if they don't keep pace, people will move if they can.

                        It's when there is a huge exit barrier that companies get away with all sorts of garbage.

                        • sexy_seedbox 7 days ago

                          Microsoft is doing just fine, for now... maybe Copilot will be the beginning of the end for them.

                      • ChrisArchitect 7 days ago
                        • pylotlight 7 days ago

                          Is there not a more strict rule on dupes on this site, I've seen this numerous times.

                          • ChrisArchitect 7 days ago

                            Mostly, but some repeat offenders just don't seem to care.

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