• beardyw 16 hours ago

    Proof that literally nothing is more important than profits. Zuckerberg and his ilk have willingly sold their souls.

    • hilbert42 13 hours ago

      "…willingly sold their souls."

      Trouble is, they know they have and don't care a damn.

      • noSouls 13 hours ago

        Atheists who rely on STEM to make choices focused less on religious poetry more on quality of their lived experience. What a shock

        It would be nice if more people set aside their high minded story mode melodrama and demanded a better lived experience instead of living through some vain obligation to nation state or religious and their austerity for all but a few ring kissers

        Trouble is, most don’t care enough about themselves to argue for better for themselves. The masses just throw up their hands

        Zuck and the politicians come from American institutions and communities which are full of fatalistic losers who see life as a dead end

        • beardyw 12 hours ago

          > losers who see life as a dead end

          Sorry to have to break it to you but dead is the end.

        • beardyw 13 hours ago

          I think the not caring a damn is a condition of the sale.

        • uyghurFights 16 hours ago

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        • Wyoming23 16 hours ago

          Wow, another New York Times article that's against West Coast technology companies.

          At this point, I don't think the NY Times needs writers, an LLM can easily cover their mandate to disparage tech and anything that rivals the American Northeast as a center of political, cultural or economic power.

          • conartist6 16 hours ago

            You have the true spirit of philosophy in you -- attack the writer without engaging the content at all.

            • bediger4000 15 hours ago

              You raise an interesting question: when do observations about some media outlet's articles indicate more than that outlet is just writing articles?

              It's certainly possible for a given media outlet to have a metaphorical axe to grind. It's also possible to read too much into everything. How do we distinguish?

              • justonceokay 14 hours ago

                Keeping the spirit of Schopenhaurer v Hegel alive. /s

                More seriously, why would journalists spend any time at all giving billionaires gold stars? The core of journalism is to speak truth to power and tech is one of the major powers.

                • s__s 12 hours ago

                  The core of journalism is to simply investigate and report facts to the public. Not to speak truth to power. An activist makes a poor journalist.

            • snakeyjake 17 hours ago

              All macho posturing comes from a position of insecurity and cowardice.

              • uyghurFights 16 hours ago

                I disagree. Machismo is valid male spirit. You just don't like it.

                That's your opinion and that's fine.

                Lots of cultures and people, including Trans, gay, poc and others are macho as heck.

                Live it. Love it.

                • thomassmith65 14 hours ago

                  Strong gender polarization is the norm in scarcity societies (eg: Iran, Uzbekistan, Russia).

                  That's one reason to seek out societies whose inhabitants have more sophisticated aspirations, imo.

                  • uyghurFights 9 hours ago

                    Japan appears wealthy and has "gender polarization ".

                    Women pour drinks, men do Sumo.

                    • thomassmith65 8 hours ago

                      Japan's gender polarization is low compared to the rest of the world.

                      According to these indices, gender inequality in Japan is lower than 85% of the world's other nations. It's not a direct measure of gender polarization, but presumably it's correlated:

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index

                  • snakeyjake 15 hours ago

                    Men, of all kinds, are.

                    Cowards posture.

                    It's like when someone threatens to sue: they're posturing from a position of weakness and fear and almost certainly will not.

                    Powerful, secure, people just do.

                    That's what makes all of the podcasting machomen so pathetic. Men just are. Insecure cowards ramble on about it.

                    edit: this is applicable to many things

                    The person who constantly talks about sex is almost certainly not having any or is insecure about how bad they are at it.

                    An "entrepreneur" on linkedin constantly posting grindset memes is almost certainly about to have his leased 3-series repossessed because he hasn't done anything except register an LLC.

                    A morality policeman or woman is with so few exceptions as to be irrelevant covering/masking/deflecting from their own immoral behavior out of guilt or malice.

                    And men who talk about how manly they are or how manly they want things to be are almost certainly insecure, cowardly, losers.

                    • Psillisp 16 hours ago

                      False

                      • dieselgate 15 hours ago

                        Why is it false? Valid is not true or false necessarily it “just is”.

                  • vaxman 14 hours ago

                    The real news HERE is that NY Times is turning on Zuck. They are so angrah [sic] because it turns out Meta is a business that operates within a government regulatory structure and is accountable for following it for the benefit of its actual shareholders, not actual cheerleaders.

                    • ada1981 18 hours ago
                      • astroid 6 hours ago

                        I'm showing my age here, but I remember when the tech community actually advocated for free and open speech without all the qualifiers like 'freedom of speech, not REACH' being pushed by the very groups who -used- to advocate genuine freedom of expression.

                        Cryptography was going to save us from govt prying and overreach, the internet was going to allow us to connect and share thoughts and ideas (even if they were offensive or disagreeable) -- and that was a good thing!

                        Now everyone WANTS to be treated by toddlers and coddled by a govt who knows best.

                        First it was 'well it's their platform man, what are you going to do? They have a right to editorialize their website - go start your own if you want to say unpopular things!'

                        Then it's 'well we didn't actually expect you to do that... we need to bankrupt any web host or payment processor who dares do business with you. BTW are you sure you don't want to setup a portal for the exclusive use of our state AG's to censor (I mean moderate!) your site? Maybe we could let one of the crappy payment processors keep doing business with you if you could meet us half way...'

                        'You can't possibly have thought posting online was really anonymous, and we all agree that opinion means your employer should be harassed until you are homeless - thems just the breaks'

                        Whatever it is, it's just never enough now - you must be 100% aligned with the current thing, and if you aren't whatever right you think you have in the public square doesn't apply online or we will string you up... don't you know, there could be children nearby!

                        Zuckerberg is a menace who should be shunned anywhere and everywhere he goes, but articles like this (and the mentality they represent) is just as demented as anything he has done.

                        If your world view is so fragile a social media post can shatter it, it deserves to be shattered and you aren't nearly as firm in your 'beliefs' as you would like to loudly make sure everyone else hears you assert that you most definitely are.

                        If you can't figure out how to block or mute or keyword filter content you don't want to see, maybe it's you who needs to be kept off of the internet rather than everyone else? The rest of us are still going to have opinions on things, no matter how much you screech.

                        The fact things have gotten so bad that I am basically being forced to defend a billionaire who made his fortune as an appendage of the state sanctioned spying apparatus is absolutely bonkers. I hate this guy as much as I can hate any human, and yet here we are it turns out I hate the current 'zeitgeist' more than the founder of FaceBook. Quite the feat!

                        • libertine 15 hours ago

                          Interestingly, the new mainstream media - podcasts - are washing many of these tech founders! The hook is that these poor billionaire souls have been oppressed all along, and they had to bend to the "deep state" and their "masters", meaning George Soros, big corporations, etc and their interests.

                          This was the whole conspiratorial narrative: everyone was being controlled by private interests through the deep state.

                          But what they seem to be avoiding in those conversations is that the tech billionaires, literally the richest bunch in the world, are now mingling with the upcoming government - somehow... this is ok :) as long as they are Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Zuckerberg, M. Andreessen, Bezos, etc

                          So now the non-conspiratorial narrative that is welcomed by the new-mainstream media: everyone is being controlled by private interests of tech founders through the deep state, and that's cool!

                          Why?

                          George Soros is an old creep... greedy and manipulative..

                          Elon Musk is a gamer just like us! He was the top-ranked player in Diablo and Path of Exile 2! He's just like you and me, cool nerds very relatable! Also he's so edgy with memes :P

                          Zukerberg does Jujitso! He's just like one of the bros, look at his new hairstyle and necklace! He wakes up just like us, gets to grinding, and does cold plunges and sht.

                          Bezos is doing TRT just like Joe Rogan and the gang, and he's jacked! I guess he's cool!

                          Somehow this aesthetic is sticking with a big group of people, not realizing these are the richest people in the world, whose wealth only grew while everyone else got squeezed... like mass layoffs don't ring bells...

                          These guys now have direct access and a say in US Governance. Common folks believe this reality is good and in the best interest of everyone, not the private interests of multibillionaires. It's so non-sensical it's hard to understand.

                          Edit: For clarification in case anyone missed it - Elon Musk was caught being boosted on Path of Exile 2. If he lies about this stuff for an aesthetic, imagine what else he lies about.

                          • floppiplopp 15 hours ago

                            The way Zuckerberg prostrated himself before the US-Führer and his president just confirmed my assumptions about the oligarchies that own the united states.