« BackHome Loss File Systemdocs.google.comSubmitted by borski 12 hours ago
  • DrRossNelson 6 hours ago

    Thanks Borski for sharing the link for the Home Loss File System - Digital Resource that my family has been working on.

    Were continuing to work to get the word out about this and the physical file boxes were creating for folks who are not tech savvy (homelossfilesystem.com).

    We've disseminated 2700 of the physical file boxes to fire survivors over the last 15 years and excited about what the digital resource can become.

    We welcome contributors/volunteers/suggestions/feedback - feel free to add them here or email us homelossfilesystem@gmail.com

    The GoFundMe is 65% the way to its goal. If you wish you contribute you can here: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-us-deliver-mor-1500-home-los...

    Thanks again all! Please continue to share with any fire survivors!

    • DrRossNelson 6 hours ago

      Also here is the link again for the Digital Resource:

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TPeJzW5pa-BiJZjuEa1y...

      • kylehotchkiss 4 hours ago

        What an awesome awesome way to make light of what you’ve gone through. This is gonna help so many people in LA!

        (Also hi from just a little bit up the 15 if you’re still in scripps ranch :))

        • DrRossNelson 4 hours ago

          We are no longer in Scripps Ranch - my parents sold their land and moved to Solana Beach. :D I'm up in the SF Bay Area myself.

      • nomilk 40 minutes ago

        Great advice, especially in the second tab (how to deal with insurers).

        I've always considered insurance false-economy and avoided it wherever possible, especially for events with losses <$20k. This is because the value of the three time-costs of insurance (time to find, time to monitor, and time to claim) generally exceed the expected value the claim.

        For example, if my flight were cancelled, I might lose $1000. But all the hassle signing up for, monitoring (to ensure conditions don't change significantly in the insurer's favour; often conveyed by an email to a spam folder), and going through a stereotypically labyrinthine claims process is significantly worse than being out of pocket $1000. Or another way to put it, I'd pay $1000 just to avoid having to do all that. Or a third way to put it, if someone offered me $1000 to find them a suitable insurance policy, monitor it to make sure the company didn't spontaneously alter it, and make a claim on their behalf, I wouldn't do it, it's just not worth it.

        I get why insurers are like this. If they can sneak you a letter/email(/fax) and on in a foot note on page 43 'notify' you of a reduction in your coverage (for unchanged premiums), they make money. And if they make lodging a claim as onerous as possible, some % of claimants will abandon the claim, making them even more money. So insurance companies are just doing what they're legally allowed to do to make as much money as possible.

        Where possible (e.g. for events without enormous payouts [obviously not so helpful in the case of LA fires]) it can be better to DIY insurance, i.e. put a little savings aside for those events (just as one may pay insurance premiums), that way, you actually have it when you need it, unlike insurance payouts from insurers who generally try to make it as difficult as possible to obtain.

        • pimlottc 6 hours ago

          This is perhaps only a problem with the niche HN user base, but “Filing System” would be more accurate. Thought this had to do with damaged hard disk recovery or redundant file systems or something technical like that.

          • ziml77 4 hours ago

            It really sounded to me like some grim project where you store your data by destroying houses!

          • ahazred8ta 9 hours ago

            A spreadsheet tool with guidance on what to do before and after the catastrophic loss of your house, and what information to collect.

            • Titan2189 7 hours ago

              You have to remove "/htmlview" from the URL, otherwise the "File > Make a copy" interface is not available

              • dang an hour ago

                Fixed now... I think. If not please let us know!

              • sedatk 6 hours ago

                There is no "File" menu in the current link because it's been shared in HTML view mode. To make a local copy, use this link to open it in edit mode instead (only the last path of the URL should be different): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TPeJzW5pa-BiJZjuEa1y...

                • ChrisArchitect 7 hours ago

                  > This tool was created by former California wildfire survivors committed to supporting you through the challenging process of disaster recovery. We hope to provide essential resources, checklists, and organizational tools to help you manage insurance claims, document losses, and track expenses efficiently. By staying organized, you hope you can regain a sense of control during this difficult time. We are truly sorry for your loss and hope this tool offers clarity, support, and empowerment as you move forward on your path to recovery.

                  • rawgabbit 4 hours ago

                    Thanks for the link. I learned that CA bans insurers from deducting the value of land when purchasing a new home instead of rebuilding.

                    Land Value Deduction – In the event of a total loss to your property, the amount owed to you by the insurer is the cost to rebuild your home at its original location, including building code upgrade coverage and extended replacement cost coverage. Your insurer is not allowed to take a deduction for the value of land under the replacement home you purchase. [Cal Ins. Code 2051.5 (c)(2)]

                    • aurizon 6 hours ago

                      Yes, first take a detailed slow panned video of each room, wall by wall, ceiling and carpets. Basement and all tools (open all and spread). Every appliance and fixtures get the medicine cabinet and under all sinks. Same with garage and all in there, same with shed and all vehicles/tools/bikes etc. You can then slowly advance the video, list the books etc, all the kitchen cabinet/freezer/clothes/bedding/frozen foods as well as dry foods etc and amass a fully exhaustive home inventory. An amazing amount of stuff = $$ builds up over the years and few people have such a detailed loss record. You can do the video in 15 minutes and as long as you save in the cloud - in a few places even - you can tabulate that aspect of your loss in detail later - even after the fact if well saved.

                      • vlark 6 hours ago

                        This is a useful tool for any homeowner, not just those threatened by wildfire. Good luck and godspeed to those currently in harm's way in California.

                        • irunmyownemail 2 hours ago

                          If we click that link, who besides Google can instantly identify us?

                          • Over2Chars 4 hours ago

                            This is a very clever idea. Cudos.

                            I'm not 100% a fan of the google doc format, but whatever.

                            • DrRossNelson 4 hours ago

                              I welcome your suggestions and volunteer efforts if want to help us make it better!

                              • Over2Chars 4 hours ago

                                It is obviously well intentioned and well timed.

                                Nit-picking it now wouldn't add any value.

                                • DrRossNelson 4 hours ago

                                  Is there a format you'd like to see this in. Keep in mind the original link in this thread was not formatted properly. Ensure you use this:

                                  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TPeJzW5pa-BiJZjuEa1y...

                                  • Over2Chars 3 hours ago

                                    I don't think you want to start a format discussion on Hacker News. Seriously.

                                    • dbtc 2 hours ago

                                      Technically, you started it.

                                      • Over2Chars 2 hours ago

                                        I mentioned it, true. I declined to participate.

                                        Shall we have a meta discussion?