« BackRewilding the Selfworldsensorium.comSubmitted by dnetesn 4 hours ago
  • PaulRobinson an hour ago

    We are nature. The separation between humanity and nature is a false one, that works against conservation efforts.

    I like the idea of rewilding because it forces us to see ourselves as part of a large natural system - which is what we are - and helps grow appreciation for that system.

    But until there is a way for recognition of that system to become more profitable than "othering" nature - polluting the environment, destroying parts of that system - or regulation prevents that othering, it can be depressingly isolating.

    • magic_smoke_ee 12 minutes ago

      There's a word for it: anthropocentrism. Also a common fallacy/myth: the noble savage.

      • arn3n 24 minutes ago

        This is a take on environmental communication I’ve heard more and more of recently. Out of curiosity, do you know of other literature or people trying to reframe the human/nature relationship?

        • walterbell 3 minutes ago

          > do you know of other literature or people trying to reframe the human/nature relationship?

          WHO draft treaties demote humans (including rights) to the same level as other animals and mandates global surveillance of interspecies zoonotic boundaries.

        • MrMcCall an hour ago

          The primary problem, my brother, is our valuing the world's resources in terms of money.

          • 65 29 minutes ago

            The problem lies in the idea that humans can own land. Hah. We're so dumb. We cannot "own" land.

            • antonvs 12 minutes ago

              Of course we can. You're perhaps thinking of ownership as being something more than a social construction, but that's all it is.

              "Own" just means that we agree with other people that we have certain rights over some property - land, or whatever. That ownership is enforced to varying degrees by society. That's it.

              • tomrod 16 minutes ago

                Sure we can. We made fences, guns, and governments to do exactly that. But it turns out these coordination and defensive devices sort of blow up in our hands. And come a huge hurricane, storm, flood, or fire, nature just laughs are our land surveys and continues unabated.

          • bix6 12 minutes ago

            I’ve spent a lot of time and effort reworking my life around nature for various reasons. I still don’t have enough due to work obligations but I recognize now that it feeds everything else in my life. I can feel the insanity build when I spend too many days in a row behind the computer without ocean time. Time in nature with friends is one of life’s greatest joys.

            • benrutter an hour ago

              This is so sadly true. I remember reading an article by philosopher and environmentalist Arne Naes where he remarked how surprisingly rare a joy in nature was, even if circles of environmental activists.

              Our species is doing some aggregious things to the planet at the moment, like the article implies, I think in part, that's possible because of a kind of blindness we now have to the world around us.

              • 1123581321 12 minutes ago

                Aggregious is a nice portmanteau or eggcorn.

                (More detail: egregious is from Latin ex grex, to stand out from the flock. aggregate is from Latin ad grex, to bring into the flock. Aggressive is ad grad, towards a new grade or level or behavior. So aggregious has this idea of all of humanity leaving our flock en masse as we hurt ourselves and the planet, unified in elevated action but misbehaving and alienated.)

              • Over2Chars 2 hours ago

                "walking barefoot in the grass, planting native species in our backyards, or simply pausing to observe the life teeming around us" - from the fine article

                Ok, I'll get right on it.

                • amelius 2 hours ago

                  You can put this [1] under your desk.

                  [1] https://www.freshpatch.com

                  (I saw this on Shark Tank)

                  • MrMcCall 2 hours ago

                    Beware! That website makes sounds :-|

                    • amelius an hour ago

                      Oops, sorry! I have my sound turned off.

                  • greenie_beans 28 minutes ago

                    ur def somebody who could use that if that is ur attitude