• davidsojevic 6 hours ago
    • jonkoops 2 hours ago

      Note there is already UI component framework called Glimmer that is used by Ember.js: https://glimmerjs.com/. It's pretty much upstreamed into Ember itself these days, but the devs also have a big Rails background so I found the coincidence funny.

      • xinuc an hour ago

        As a long time rubyist, I know that Andy's Glimmer preceded Yehuda's.

        • caseyohara 21 minutes ago

          The first commit to the Ruby Glimmer project (2008-11-25 is the earliest I found) long predates the first commit to even Ember itself (2011-04-30).

      • flippyhead an hour ago

        And only 21,000+ commits. Nice!

        • desireco42 18 minutes ago

          Congrats Andy for consistently shipping! He has been working on this and perfecting it for years.

          • msie 5 hours ago

            This is great! Just yesterday I was looking at wxruby3 but I didn’t see a way to package/distribute apps. This does solve that problem.

            • artemonster 6 hours ago

              How debuggable is this (besides sifting through wall of debug log text)? Can you step through your declarative GUI building process inside DSL or its like this: "DSL text goes into magic magic...POOF! here is the result. hopefully nothing went wrong or glhf"

              • verdverm 17 minutes ago

                I've built a DSL engine on top of CUE + Go's text/template [1]. This largely becomes feeding data into a set of templates, and even this can be hard to debug because template engines often lack the extras needed to support it.

                I'd be curious to see if a more code based DSL engine has better debug support. I would imagine you would be stepping through both the DSL code and the engine, if it is more dynamic (i.e. there is not a two step process for DSL authoring)

                What I like about a text/template engine is that anyone can use it (create new DSLs) without knowing the language the engine is implemented in. CUE appeals to me as the language for writing/using the DSL because (1) I don't have to learn a new syntax per DSL and (2) it becomes data (json/yaml) I can use anywhere for other purposes beyond generating code.

                [1] https://github.com/hofstadter-io/hof

                • artemonster 2 minutes ago

                  my experience with interpreter pattern is that you will be spending 90% of debugger time stepping through abstract "eval" functions that are irrelevant to what you want debug.

                • chao- 5 hours ago

                  The popular debugger for Ruby is a combination of two libraries: byebug and pry. Using these should allow you to step into/over code in a familiar way, if you've used most breakpoint-based debuggers.

                  If you end up giving it a try, please report back!

                  • 3ds 5 hours ago

                    These two gems have been superseded by the `debug` gem.

                    https://github.com/ruby/debug

                    • runako 2 minutes ago

                      Could you say more about that? I have been using pry, and it appears to still be updated. Is there a reason to stop using pry, or are you expressing a preference for the official debug gem?

                      Thanks!