• Nihilartikel 19 hours ago

    Not discounting larger cultural forces and momentum at play, but I have to wonder how big a role inflated healthcare costs play in parents' level of protectiveness over their young children.

    Even adjusted for inflation, a visit to the emergency room for a broken arm or a few stitches is a way different financial proposition today than it was in say 1988 when I was a pre-teen running amok, alone, within a 5 mile radius of home.

    I know I have a dollar amount floating in the back of my head when I'm watching my kiddo cavort around in the playground or jumping between big rocks the same way that I did at his age. Is there mortal danger? Not at all.. Buuuuut, is he going to split his lip if he face plants on a leap? How many grand is that going to be, even with insurance? It figures into the mental calculus, even if we can ostensibly afford it. Lots of families probably cannot afford it so well. My family definitely wouldn't have been able to if health care costs were the same in the 80s as they are now.

    • giarc 19 hours ago

      Likely not at play since you see the decrease in free play across countries with public healthcare systems. As a Canadian I do not think about the cost of healthcare whatsoever. If my kid falls and breaks an arm, the cost is $15 which is one day of parking.

      • nkotov 18 hours ago

        Broke my arm a couple years ago in the US - total cost for me out of pocket after insurance was around $5k.

        • Cpoll 18 hours ago

          > one day of parking

          Unfortunately you really will be there the whole day.

          • giarc 18 hours ago

            Do we have issues with wait times, yes. However, the guy above you broke his arm and had to pay $5,000 AFTER insurance covered their portion.

            • duck 4 hours ago

              I worked with a Canadian about 10 years ago that broke his arm while visiting family in Winnipeg during Christmas. He waited 2 or maybe 3 full days to have it set and get a cast with no luck in seeing a doctor and finally drove across the border to have it done in the US. He was 60 or so and when he didn't even seem upset at that happening! That really opened my eyes on "free" healthcare.

        • neuralRiot 12 hours ago

          Another side effect of the healthcare cost is the liability for the owner/ maintainer of the play space as naturally parents would want to offload the cost of the treatment by seeking a lawsuit.

          • Clubber 18 hours ago

            The news has gone to 11 with the fear mongering since the 1990s and fear mongering about your kids in danger is the most profitable.

            FWIW, my kid always wanted to go to the playground when she was a youngster. When she hit around 11, she was no longer interested. Computer took over.

          • kjreact 16 hours ago

            An interesting quote from the article: “this pattern of risky play as a protective factor against mental-health issues was stronger for children from lower-income households than for those from higher-income households.”

            I wonder if being an overprotective parent stems from the desire to use their children as benchmarks for their own success?

            • llm_trw 19 hours ago

              Very nice. Now start publishing papers which are the result of wild free play.

              I had a paper rejected from nature after 5 revisions and two years. It ended up as the top paper ever in a second tier journal. Two extension papers from other groups on areas that we flagged as possible future extensions did make it in Nature last I checked.

              • giarc 19 hours ago

                Citation needed.

              • 23B1 19 hours ago

                I'm not sure the parents are necessarily to blame here.

                https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/us/mother-arrested-missing-so...

                • nytesky 19 hours ago

                  10 is really old to be calling the cops on. My kids is 8 and we expecting her to walk to school alone this year like many kids.

                  But the lack of sidewalk and the description as a place “no on walks” is a bit more problematic.

                  We definitely have roads like that and would be horrified if my kid was walking along it — and the cops picking them up would be probably appropriate

                  But arresting the parents is over reaction; kids do stupid things, even when taught well. And there was a guardrail.

                  • lm28469 19 hours ago

                    It's very location dependent regardless of the laws, I spent the holidays in eastern europe (large cities) and saw hordes of kids playing around in the snow, even kids under 10 playing without supervision, I'm back in the west and I only see groups of fat kids smoking vapes, eating junk and doomscrolling on public benches, I wish I was exaggerating... it's so depressing. idk what kind of future we're training them for but I think they'll struggle hard in life

                  • tempaccount420 19 hours ago

                    Could they take those risks in a controlled environment? The fact that it's controlled could be hidden. Video games could be a good substitute?

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