• danielvinson 2 days ago

    Love the idea and technology - I’d much prefer if the output of this was an MPC order since that’s how almost everyone is making proxies these days. Getting my entire cube printed was only about $100 and they are indistinguishable from real cards.

    • adenta 2 days ago

      The joy of proxies is you can do whatever you want! My take was to not make these seem as real as possible, and one where you can print on demand.

      Imagine a proxy only tournament of any card game, where you have to submit your decklist ahead of time and it is waiting for you when you arrive, ready to play and keep.

    • pickledish 2 days ago

      This looks pretty cool, and is definitely useful! Do you have any examples of what the printed out cards look like? Perhaps in comparison to real cards

      • adenta 2 days ago

        https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AzIBAE7VPQMfqq-gVFTK...

        The red bordered cards are the ones I just printed, real cards are on the right. Also all are US sized, the real yugioh cards are slightly smaller than that.

        I tried to get a couple diff angles and card types. Like I said, totally good enough for my use cases!

        • SllX 2 hours ago

          Ah, Snake-Eye Fire King. Where were you last year?

          • pickledish 2 days ago

            Wow, they look great, the upscaling seems to have gone really well!

          • adenta 2 days ago

            let me go print some!

          • trigonated 2 days ago

            Having your home page be just a login button is a bit disappointing.

            There's no screenshots and no information about how it works (or information at all for that matter), which doesn't really convince me to create an account (in my mind, the process of picking a deck and printing it is not one where requiring a login would be obvious, so some more "convincing" might help).

            I don't want to sound mean-spirited, but I'd guess many people would similarly refrain from creating an account for the reasons mentioned above.

            Edit: Turns out there's a cool scrolling cards animation as background! It's just that it doesn't seem to work on Firefox so there it just has a blank background.

            • theogravity 2 days ago

              I agree. Without this post, if I visited the page without any prior knowledge, I'd have no idea what this is about, and would have no incentive to sign up.

              • adenta 2 days ago

                The only way I'm showing people this website is a personal text or this hacker news post, which I would hope gives enough context.

                • trigonated 2 days ago

                  Fair enough. Sorry for sounding a bit mean.

                  I also saw your other comment about the "test" account (didn't feel like replying on both places). Thank you for that.

                • trigonated 2 days ago

                  Maybe some sort of "guest mode" where you could use the site, pick a deck and preview the printing (maybe a very small image), but then required an account to not lose the deck or actually getting the printable would be pretty reasonable.

                  That said, maybe there's some other advantage to having an account that I just didn't think of.

                • adenta 2 days ago

                  If you want to play around with it, try account hn@example.com with password hackernews!

                  I didn't add any restrictions on email registration because I hear you that actually creating an account can be a chore. Exposing web services to the public internet without auth seems scary, which is why I rarely do it.

                  • nafey 2 days ago

                    Just adding a static website with screenshots of the product will be a great upgrade for users who are interested to learn more before signing in.

                    • snapcaster 2 days ago

                      but also the chat function doesn't do anything unless you supply an email. Seriously without your post text here it's literally impossible to figure out what your site does exactly pre-account creation

                      • lxgr 2 days ago

                        > I didn't add any restrictions on email registration […] Exposing web services to the public internet without auth seems scary

                        Aren’t you still effectively doing that, though?

                        This seems like the combination of two downsides: Bots will be able to perform email verification if they want to; honest users will still be deterred.

                        • adenta 2 days ago

                          great point-

                          bot protection is enabled in clerk, where email registration is not.

                        • dgrove 2 days ago

                          Also login over a VPN unless you want your IP leaked to everyone else

                          • cmg 2 days ago

                            For anyone else trying this, the password is hackernews - without an exclamation point. Tripped me up.

                            Thanks for setting this up adenta!

                        • meta_1995 2 days ago

                          oh man. if you could get the SWCCG holotable slipped in here... i'd be a very happy elder millenial. https://github.com/swccgpc/holotable

                          • jsnznsb 2 days ago

                            A work of passion, congratulations!

                            • popalchemist 2 days ago

                              Why do you say Kamal is a game changer?

                              • adenta a day ago

                                You don't have to pay a tax to render.com! You can just buy a linux box and be off to the races.

                              • ianferrel 2 days ago

                                Wizards of the Coast is relatively litigious. I'd expect a Cease and Desist if you get any traction with this.

                                • mercwear 2 days ago

                                  WOTC has a (surprisingly) good proxy policy: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/proxies-poli...

                                  TL;DR: Use them all you want for play testing but don't use them in events or for trading.

                                  Edit: They DO want a watermark for proxy cards, not sure they enforce that much since most proxy sites make it optional.

                                  • ianferrel 2 days ago

                                    I mean... maybe?

                                    It says

                                    "A playtest card is most commonly a basic land with the name of a different card written on it with a marker. Playtest cards aren't trying to be reproductions of real Magic cards; they don't have official art and they wouldn't pass even as the real thing under the most cursory glance. Fans use playtest cards to test out new deck ideas before building out a deck for real and bringing it to a sanctioned tournament. And that's perfectly fine with us. Wizards of the Coast has no desire to police playtest cards made for personal, non-commercial use, even if that usage takes place in a store."

                                    So they say that they have no desire to police them, but define them as not using original art and not passing for the real card even briefly. Those descriptions do not apply to high-resolution original art card images printed out.

                                  • adenta 2 days ago

                                    Yeah I wonder why https://scryfall.com/ never gets a C&D.

                                    I think the problem is money changing hands which isn't happening.

                                    • supernewton 2 days ago

                                      Wizards of the Coast's in-house card database (Gatherer) is basically not maintained at all. I think they're very happy there is a third party willing to do that for free, and for a game with as much history as Magic, having a searchable card database is basically mandatory.

                                      • adenta 2 days ago

                                        but IANAL and would love to hear from any that might read this.

                                    • piyuv 2 days ago

                                      I saw the sign in screen and immediately closed. Limitlesstcg exists and can be used without an account.

                                      • adenta a day ago

                                        Will Limitlesstcg let you print proxys? That's the main thing I'm doing here.

                                      • rc5150 2 days ago

                                        Same. Making me create another account is an immediate non-starter.

                                        • adenta a day ago

                                          Will Limitlesstcg let you print proxys? That's the main thing I'm doing here.

                                          • alt187 20 hours ago

                                            What's the relation between proxies and accounts? Do you need an account to handle proxies?

                                      • mercwear 2 days ago

                                        For MTG fans, checking out https://mtgprint.net/ may be worth a shot too. No login required and same results.

                                        • adenta 2 days ago

                                          I really like my search interface.

                                          If you want to play around with it, try account hn@example.com with password 'hackernews'

                                          • rc5150 2 days ago

                                            At the risk of repeating what others have said, your page requiring the user to create yet another account for something that has no business requiring an account is an immediate non-starter.

                                            Your search function could have puppies and rainbows but it surely doesn't do anything worth creating an account for.

                                            • mercwear 19 hours ago

                                              +1, I dont want to have to login to a simple service like this. The only value a login provides IMHO is the ability for the site owner to sell my info. Probably not the case here but never can tell and not worth the hassle when I can just use existing resources that work fine and require no login.