• bombcar 13 hours ago

    I should have known Pratchett's Hall of Faces in the Fools' Guild was based on something real.

    https://wiki.lspace.org/Hall_of_Faces

    (There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.)

    • notatoad 10 hours ago

      >There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.

      or at least, there is if you're as good at it as Terry Pratchett was.

      • ajb 12 hours ago

        I think he liked doing that, there are so many examples of things that seem made up, but then you find they aren't. Making perfume from whale vomit, for example.

        • jauco 11 hours ago

          My favourite are the wee free men.

          They’re not pixies, but pictsies. Their accent is a bit Scottish. They seem to have blue colored skin, but actually those are tattoos and they believe they’re currently in the afterlife (and must have been really nice persons in their previous actual life because they’re convinced they’re currently in heaven)

          I always found that a bit lame and over the top.

          The I learned that in northern england there once lived a keltic clan called the Picts. They were covered in blue tattoos and the kelts famously believed they lived in the afterlife and life was so good they were convinced they lived in heaven.

          • gilleain 10 hours ago

            Er, not really in 'Northern England', the Picts lived in what is now Scotland.

            My favourite aspects of the pictsies ('Nac Mac Feegle') was their fear of writing, given its association with lawyers.

            • 0xdeadbeefbabe 9 hours ago

              I don't know the name of the phenomenon, but in fiction if you take stuff from real life especially peoples names it makes for unbelievable fiction.

              • jhp123 8 hours ago

                Tiffany Effect

            • mattmanser 9 hours ago

              Liked? That was his thing. Every single book was a piss-take of something from the real world.

              He often took real occupations and set them in his fantasy world to satirize them.

              His humour was to take something from our world, put it in discworld, and then point out how ridiculous it all was.

              What always amazed me was the diverseness of it. Whether he was taking the mickey out of hollywood, newspapers, rock music, somophore, stamp collecting, he seemed to have an eclectic knowledge about so much.

              But not savagely, it was with the gentle fondness that underlies the best humour of friends ribbing each other.

              • pdpi 4 hours ago

                One of the important features of satire is that you kind of need to really, deeply, fundamentally get the thing you’re satirising. Which makes it even more insane how he managed to satirise so many different topics.

                • mattkevan 7 hours ago

                  I learned a lot of history, politics and folklore reading Pratchett’s books. If he mentioned something specific I generally found it was real or at least echoed something real.

                  His knowledge, wisdom and love of humanity was something special.

                • nullhole 8 hours ago

                  Ah, precious hamburgers

                • wccrawford 13 hours ago

                  1987 to 1993 isn't a ton of time. It's possible he actually did come up with it himself, and it happened to mirror reality.

                  The 1946 version of the collection was just someone's hobby.

                  • thaumasiotes 9 hours ago

                    No, the 1946 version of the collection became a recognized registry decades before 1987. From the link in the article, the April 1957 issue of Mechanix Illustrated:

                    > As secretary of the European division of the [International Circus Clown Club] Bult keeps a file of faces so that clowns can avoid copying each other. Each clown's make-up is his professional, jealously guarded property.

                    Just this one half-paragraph seems like enough to define the Hall of Faces.

                  • scotty79 6 hours ago

                    > There's a lot of money to be made in repackaging Britain to be sold to Americans as "high fantasy", btw.

                    Witcher is repackaging motifs from old Slavic legends with modern twists.

                  • croisillon 12 hours ago

                    As referenced in an Avengers episode: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0516859/ (season 7 @rwmj)

                    • chadcmulligan 8 hours ago

                      I am currently watching all the episodes haven't got to season 7 yet, so something to look forward to. There's some great viewing in them, glad I'm not the only one.

                      • croisillon an hour ago

                        i must confess i never saw the ones with Honor Blackman, it's on my todo list!

                    • kelseyfrog 13 hours ago

                      I'm reminded deeply of the statues[1] of Internet Archivists who silently wait in the pews[2].

                      1. https://www.nualacreed.com/galleries/ceramic-archivists

                      2. https://archive.org/details/TheInternetArchivistsFinalCutBoo...

                      • scotty79 6 hours ago

                        > operates outside the courts and is not enforced by lawyers, which makes the practice particularly interesting to legal scholars like us

                        That sounds terribly ominous ... Like lawyers are continuously searching for human activities to attach to and leech from.

                        • dvh 12 hours ago

                          Do you like clowns?

                          • eleveriven 10 hours ago

                            Clowns bring joy with their antics