• eichin a day ago

    Hmm, https://github.com/abcminiuser/python-elgato-streamdeck/ already supports the Plus (that's the library behind https://github.com/timothycrosley/streamdeck-ui ) I wonder if there's a missed opportunity for collaboration here (I didn't see any names in common at a quick glance, though I didn't dig that far.)

    • dend a day ago

      They do, and indeed there are libraries that are already accomplishing what I am doing! This project is mostly there to satisfy my own curiosity, as well as build a robust .NET wrapper (not Python). Love the work that python-elgato-streamdeck does, for sure.

    • anthonyeden a day ago

      This is an interesting article. It’s worth mentioning open source software exists for the StreamDeck. Companion is very popular in the AV production industry. https://github.com/bitfocus/companion

      • dend a day ago

        Indeed, I am not the first, and I am sure not the last, to dig through Stream Deck internals. This article was mostly written to satisfy my own curiosity.

      • ofrzeta 21 hours ago

        It's interesting. Recently I thought about building a DIY stream deck but LCD keycaps are so expensive that it almost makes sense to buy a steamdeck for scavenging the parts :)

        • dend 20 hours ago

          I don't know about the latest Stream Deck models, but for previous models (at least the ones I have) you might be surprised that behind the scenes is just one display! See the teardown (album not mine): https://imgur.com/gallery/elgato-stream-deck-what-is-inside-...

          The buttons are entirely virtual and the onboard controller ensures they are properly positioned, so you don't have to have each button carry it's own screen.

          • illwrks 16 hours ago

            I remember the Nintendo 2DS did the same thing, it was one screen with a partition and touch overlay.The game was rendered to both sides of it, it was a clever cost saving exercise.

            https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo+2DS+Screen+Replacement...

            • ofrzeta 20 hours ago

              Heh, that's super interesting. Thanks for the info and the pointer.

          • xyproto 14 hours ago

            Valve should rename "Steam Deck" to "Steam Machine" to avoid confusion with "Stream decks".

            • joshstrange 13 hours ago

              I literally googled “Steam Deck Plus” because I read it wrong and immediately wanted to know about whatever new Steam Deck Valve was selling.

              • ParetoOptimal 4 hours ago

                Personally I've never heard of Stream Deck and can't stop seeing "Steam Deck".

                Also subjective, but Steam Machine sounds corny.

                • jasonjmcghee 7 hours ago

                  I have to believe Valve has sold more units / has more brand recognition

                  • victorbjorklund 13 hours ago

                    Very true. I own both yet even I'm confused all the time.

                    • wtetzner 10 hours ago

                      I think they called it Steam Deck to avoid confusion with their previous Steam Machines.

                    • ryao a day ago

                      Am I the only one who wondered what desktop environment was providing the window decorations before realizing it was some variant of Microsoft Windows?

                      • a1o 14 hours ago

                        It looks like it's rounded so I think it is Windows 11, but surprisingly it is using the photoviewer from the Vista era.

                        I didn't knew it was apparently still included in newer windows, I switched to nomacs as the image viewer in my Win11 because I disliked the new image viewer - it's usually slow, and it has weird controls for a desktop system.

                        • dend 8 hours ago

                          I switched to the classic photo viewer because I am not a fan of the new one. You can switch with a bit of registry "hacking":

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll" /f

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell" /f

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open" /f /v MuiVerb /t REG_SZ /d "@photoviewer.dll,-3043"

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\command" /f /ve /t REG_EXPAND_SZ /d "%SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe \"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Viewer\PhotoViewer.dll\", ImageView_Fullscreen %1"

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\DropTarget" /f /v Clsid /t REG_SZ /d "{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}"

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print" /f

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command" /f /ve /t REG_EXPAND_SZ /d "%SystemRoot%\System32\rundll32.exe \"%ProgramFiles%\Windows Photo Viewer\PhotoViewer.dll\", ImageView_Fullscreen %1"

                          reg add "HKCR\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget" /f /v Clsid /t REG_SZ /d "{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}"

                          For HEIC photos, you might still want to use the new viewer.

                          • a1o 7 hours ago

                            Yeah, it was HEIC that brought me to nomacs, I never heard of the format until I switched the phone for an iPhone.

                          • DCH3416 11 hours ago

                            Yeah animated mouse wheel zoom will do it. And as a bonus "Photos" takes a lot longer to load. And what's this? "Edit an image using AI". Yeah, the pop ups.

                            Unfortunately you have to patch in photo viewer in order to use it out of box.

                          • dend a day ago

                            That would be stock Windows 10!

                            • ryao a day ago

                              I stopped using Windows in the Windows 7 era, so I am not used to seeing it.

                          • qingcharles 10 hours ago

                            Absolutely fantastic write-up. Thank you for taking the time and energy to do that.

                            I also have the Elgato pedal -- is that just some regular HID device do you know?

                            • dend 8 hours ago

                              Thank you for the shout-out, really appreciate it. Your assumption is correct - it's regular HID device!

                            • atmanactive a day ago

                              >> ...but the software has gotten worse - it now goes as far as to requiring users for an account to download extensions.

                              That's when I got off that train. As alternatives, I am now evaluating Macro Deck and OpenDeck. I owe my gratitude to people like you who made it possible. Kudos and thanks!

                              • dend a day ago

                                Yeah, I am undertaking this primarily to break free of the artificial constraints - the hardware is top-notch, but the ever-increasing push to make every piece of software connect to an account when it's not needed is absurd.

                                Appreciate the shout-out!

                              • juhanakristian 15 hours ago

                                Haven’t read the article yet but I love the “Little Mole” gif you used.

                                • dend 8 hours ago

                                  Krtek is an underrated classic!

                                • moon82 a day ago

                                  interesting, thanks for sharing!

                                  • educasean a day ago

                                    I was confused at first because I misread the title as referring to Valve's Steam Deck, which is a portable gaming PC

                                    • itsananderson a day ago

                                      Google also finds these names confusing. Whenever I try to search for something Stream Deck related, Google returns results for the Steam Deck. It's quite annoying.

                                      • taskforcegemini 12 hours ago

                                        that one is on google though

                                      • sdenton4 a day ago

                                        Same! I continued to be confused even on seeing the picture of the device and thinking, 'wtf, is there some steam deck console device I've never heard of?'

                                        • lhamil64 a day ago

                                          I also misread that. And when the Steam Deck first came out I remember constantly misreading it as Stream Deck. Interesting how that changed.

                                          • dend a day ago

                                            Yeah, the naming for these devices is not very obvious to quite a few readers. This blog post is about the control box.

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                                              • cladopa a day ago

                                                me too.