It appears that the Hearing Aid feature is actually an equalizer preset that is pushed to the AirPods and will replace your transparency mode.
Apple could've just not marketed these as "hearing aids" or used the medical terminology, as every other TWS with parametric EQ and transparency mode can do the same thing, and they wouldn't have the regulatory hawks going after them. They only lose the marketing edge, but perhaps that was a huge calculated risk.
There's an incredible amount of processing power and flexibility in these things. Even the sub-$10 ones using the infamous JieLi SoCs - a 160MHz 32-bit computer in each ear. I'm surprised there hasn't yet been any TWS advertised with open-source firmware, although there's been some work in the usual Chinese (and Russian) communities on customisations.
> They only lose the marketing edge
This is a bigger deal than it may sound. Apple isn't operating in a vacuum, sony[0] and bose are also targeting the market and they'll also probably do their marketing push as they see fit.
Apple only having a "kinda works as a hearing aid" is a sizeable disadvantage when the other brands will have posters in prominent places at sales points. Apple would still win on online sales and people who don't need that much reliability of course.
Funnily enough, the company that bought out the consumer audio division of Sennheiser some time ago is a manufacturer of hearing aids. (No hearing aid features have manifested in the Momentum True Wireless series thus far.)
How do Sony or Bose have any kind of retail advantage? What stores that sell Sony and Bose don't also sell Apple stuff? Plus Apple has their own stores which make more money per square foot than just about any other retailer.
Because they’re about to sell their products as hearing aids due to the recent OTC hearing aid regulation change.
You seem to be painting Sony or Bose as some small upstart that struggle to get store shelf. I'm not sure to follow.
Sony funnily also has presence in many specialized and/or non tech shops (select goods shops etc.) where they could be only two or three earbuds. If Apple didn't get the certification, having a spot for Sony's or Bose's ones could have been a natural choice if the shop targeted that kind of demographic.
Sony has great audio codecs and doesn't treat my Linux desktop as a second-class citizen. I have zero reason to even consider Airpods as a serious alternative for as long as they treat multipoint bluetooth as an optional feature.
Once you factor price into the equation, there's very little reason for an educated customer to pick the Airpods besides marketing. Apple doesn't give people a good reason unless they already own thousands of dollars in other Apple hardware.
> I'm surprised there hasn't yet been any TWS advertised with open-source firmware
Let me introduce you to the PineBuds Pro: https://pine64.com/product/pinebuds-pro-open-firmware-capabl...
User can flash in PINE64 community open firmware when becomes[sic] available.
I did manage to find the firmware, but it says that it doesn't have ANC, which the factory firmware does. Good start nonetheless.
>Excessive flashing Pinebuds can potentially brick the device.
Jeez that's not great. Hard to develop on these devices when too many flashes kills them.
The flash on these SoCs is usually designed to be programmed once at the factory, and then perhaps the occasional firmware update. Endurance is in the ~100 cycles range.
For anyone else wondering, apparently "TWS" means "True Wireless Stereo":
https://audiochamps.com/what-does-tws-mean/
So, Bluetooth.
Bluetooth headphones have many form factors. TWS in particular means you have two buds that aren’t joined in any way.
This is what a non-TWS Bluetooth earphone looks like:
https://5.imimg.com/data5/SELLER/Default/2023/5/311562137/UE...
Or more commonly:
https://kagi.com/proxy/1462421?c=3_iinnNGr4mThI2-fwchjJtCnBS...
They may have been trying to target the crowd that uses FSA/HSA to pay for medical related expenses.
Is that the only concern? That's good because Apple probably won't go and turn the feature off.
I was worried that there might have been some other regulatory concern, perhaps to do with volume. Though I can't think what that might be.
> every other TWS with parametric EQ and transparency mode can do the same thing,
AirPods too! I'm am yet to be convinced that this is any different than using a different hearing test app like Mimi and applying the resulting audiogram, as has been possible for years.
But can you play Doom on them?
the point is that they can do, in an FDA-approved manner a hearing test + tuning the hearing aid + hearing protection all in one device
and this means both that they don't have to use weasel legal language to avoid "the regulatory hawks" AND that they gain a huge air of legitimacy in their marketing as a medical device
I own AAPL for that marketing edge! I bought more AAPL after they announced locking down macOS to prevent third party sourced applications from running, because Apple customers are the kind who'll interpret such news as daddy protecting them and looking out for babies' best interests, which means more money going into the Apple tax to pay AAPL holders!
Fwiw I refuse to own Apple, I only own AAPL.
You do know you can still use macOS to run third party closed source applications, right?
An even unsigned x86_64 apps and ad-hoc signed arm64 apps.
> Since WiFi and a microwave operate at the same frequency (2.4GHz), we ran our leaky microwave at full power to block out any persistent network signals in the air.
Incidentally, WiFi tries to intentionally avoid this interference. Microwaves output no power during the zero crossing of the AC line that's driving it, and in this interval, there is no signal in the air to jam things. WiFi listens before sending (so as to avoid stepping on other stations), and the microwave's signal is enough to trigger this. (I forget if microwave ovens are "half wave" and you get 1/120th of a second 60 times a second, or if there is just a threshold near the zero crossing where there isn't enough power to interfere.)
I would say it's likely that the microwave oven didn't really do much here.
Whatever the theoretical analysis tells you, I've been able to reproduce a microwave interfering with a wifi signal with at least one microwave and router. I've had other times where it didn't have a noticeable effect though.
The key to happiness in WiFi is that all the stations have to "hear" each other, or the listen-before-talk algorithm can't work and you end up stepping on valid transmissions that you can't hear. This ruins it for the stations that are the targets of that transmission but can also hear the first station. This is why WiFi tends to degrade at longer ranges; with a topology like <computer A> <---> <access point> <----> <computer B>, both computers can hear the access point, but can't hear each other. This means that they step on each other when talking to the access point; when this happens, the access point sees the sum of the two signals which is has to discard as garbage. As a result, whenever you see enterprise WiFi that actually works, you'll probably be able to see a ton of access points covering a large room. This is so that they can transmit at low power, causing devices in the above topology to roam to a different access point before they enter the failure mode of not hearing other stations connected to that access point.
Now that I think about it, in OP's case, it's quite possible that the iPad can "hear" the microwave, but the access point can't, so the access point will send out its SSID broadcast while the microwave is interfering. This is great because you WANT that packet to get corrupted. So maybe the microwave does help!
> As a result, whenever you see enterprise WiFi that actually works, you'll probably be able to see a ton of access points covering a large room.
IETF attendees reengineer their hotel’s Wi-Fi network - https://www.computerworld.com/article/1448494/ietf-attendees... ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3771876 31 comments)
> “There was no WiFi signal when on the desk in front of the window in my room, but after some experiments, I discovered that the signal was quite good… on the ceiling of the bathroom,” emailed Marc Petit-Huguenin.
> “I have a Nexus S phone, so I taped it on the ceiling of the bathroom, and used tethering over Bluetooth to bridge the gap to the desk,” he explained. This is a slow connection, but good enough to send emails over SMTP or use vi [the popular Unix text editor] over SSH.”
> ... Working behind the scenes, a team of IETF attendees negotiated with the hotel and were granted access to the wireless network by Sunday night. ...
> The changes made by the IETF makeover team included:
> – Decreasing the AP receiver sensitivity ([changing] HP/Colubris configuration “distance” from “large” to “small”);
> – Increasing the minimum data and multicast rate from 1Mbps to 2Mbps;
> – Decreasing the transmit power from 20dBm to 10dBm;
> – And, turning off the radios on numerous APs to reduce the [RF] noise.
> ...
> Each floor now has approximately two access points on each of these four channels, with the channels staggered on adjacent floor. That design maximizes the distance between access points on the same channel. “I hope this will significantly improve the coverage in some rooms that had marginal or no signal while also improving the signal to noise ratio for all,” he said
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Note that the changes were being made to decrease the power being used.
You'll also see this in wireshark as retransmissions of packets. It's really great for discovering that a service you've written isn't filling packets and can only get 50-ish bps throughput due to head-of-line blocking and sending lots of tiny packets.
Fun story: I’ve had a speaker which would connect to a Bluetooth device as soon as it was turned on, and only enter pairing mode if a paired device wasn’t in range. I couldn’t figure out what device it was connecting to, so I put it in the microwave (while it was off!) briefly to trigger the pairing timeout.
I’ve had a microwave oven interfere quite clearly (correlated with turning it on and off) with my AirPods before.
> Microwaves output no power during the zero crossing of the AC line Why is this? Do microwaves by design modulate their 2.4gHz on top of 50/60Hz?
The magnetron needs about -4.4kV to work and food does not care about the purity of the signal, only net energy delivered.
So the transformer based microwave oven power supplies have a 2.2kV transformer and then double that to 4.4kV for the magnetron.
There is no filtering or smoothing, as those parts would cost money and present a danger to the service technician.
So the voltage feeding the magnetron is not even sinusoidal.
Yup, exactly. Compare the price of a PC power supply, which outputs a very smooth constant voltage, to a microwave oven. The microwave oven is cheaper, and uses all 1800W of your circuit. A DC power supply that does that is much more expensive.
It is truly amazing how cost-optimized microwave ovens are.
So two leaky microwaves on different mains phases would block (2.4ghz) wifi?
In theory, yes, but in practice microwaves messing with wifi is such a well known phenomenon that there's an XKCD about this.
A commenter on Reddit [1] pointed out that you can access the hearing test feature directly by using a special URL:
x-apple-health://HearingAppPlugin.healthplugin/HearingTest
1: https://www.reddit.com/r/AirpodsPro/comments/1gftyqo/is_the_...
This was one of the rabbitholes I chased down, but didn't find anything.
At some level, this was just the easier approach :)
I'm sure there's something though. Apple changed the URL handler schemes for iOS 18, so a lot of old repos that reference that don't work anymore.
Hey! I'm Rithwik, one of the authors of the article, happy to answer questions etc!
I'm a bit perplexed about region handling, maybe you could shed some light on it. I have an iPhone from Canada, with a Canadian Apple account (Canadian CC/billing address, set location to Canada in App Store), but live in Spain for the last few years. I am still fully "Canadian" according to Apple. I don't get any of the 3rd party App Store stuff that's region locked to the EU, and have access to Apple Intelligence and other features not available in the EU.
I can't give the hearing aid feature a test because it's not available in either Canada or Spain, but I am wondering what the difference is (if any) between the hearing aid region lock and other geo-locked/geo-enabled features Apple has.
You can login with a second account that is an EU account, my wife went this route. You get the best of both worlds.
I ended up transferring my account to an EU account (pro-tip, you may be on the phone with Apple support for 6+ hours if the automation fails). I still have access to both US-specific features (like Apple Cash in USD and the feature in this article) and EU-specific features (like the new app store stuff).
Mainly just wanted to say, this is an absolutely fantastic hack and I loved reading about it - thank you for sharing!
I guess if I have one question, it would be... what else are you planning to do with your new Faraday cage?
I'm thinking of making it easy to "teleport" to any location within the cage
Imagine typing in coordinates or picking a location on a map, and then suddenly your phone or any other device is at that location inside the cage, by a combination of GPS, cellular and WiFi spoofing
My former manager called it a portal haha: https://x.com/masadfrost/status/1856467695606345756
Thank you for reading and the kind words! We're almost looking forward to this loophole being shut down to really make things a tad bit more challenging haha
We've got some ideas for the Faraday cage—a whole bunch of networks research and hacking that we can do without messing up live systems! It's also really nice to be able to test a device in isolation, without worrying about whether it's phoning back home in some way.
> We're almost looking forward to this loophole being shut down to really make things a tad bit more challenging haha
This is a great attitude in the face of a pretty sad 2024 reality: that the manufacturer of a device is expected to intentionally go out of its way to remotely stop users from using the device they bought in the way they want to use it.
That's a really awesome hack, thanks for sharing. I was slightly surprised that you had to go as far as spoofing a wifi network actually but it's great you figured it out.
Awesome article. This kind of hacking casually showing iOS app behavior is another world, especially because I thought they were so locked down. How did you get started, any recommendations?
Since you did not end up having bought yourself a very expensive set of earphones, what earphones do you use — or want to get?
haha, I think I've got many miles to go before I'm qualified to answer this :')
I've just been hacking away at things since I was in middle school, am lucky that there's some transfer. LLMs have also been a huge unlock—really cool to be able to try things at near speed of thought!
> what earphones do you use — or want to get? I'm very happy with my Shure Aonic 3s, a very loyal IEMs guy!
In the true spirit of 2600!
Loved the article, thank you for sharing. How happy are the grandparents with the hearing aid functionality? Is it working well for them and how is the battery life?
It's all too early to tell, but we'll know after a week or so. The battery life thing is not seeming like a big problem, since the existing device needs batteries changed every few days or charged every night.
As for the sound quality, a few of our grandparents have tried it, and while they say it sounds 'different', it's not necessarily bad. Grandma was actually quite content even with just the old EQ settings that shipped pre iOS 18 for folks with hearing issues.
Thanks for the kind words!
The hearing test on one of the images shows a ‘profound loss’. Does the hearing aid feature work for such a significant loss, or does it disable for any result beyond moderate loss?
Hi Rithwik -- great work. My Nana would have been thrilled to know this was possible :)
If I can ask -- what program did you use to generate the code maps in your article?
Binary Ninja: https://binary.ninja/ :)
Think someone has already linked it below!
It's Binary Ninja: https://binary.ninja
They look a lot like the graphs that Hopper produces :)
Maybe I missed it but did you make or buy the Faraday cage?
We built it ourselves actually!
The first prototype was just aluminium foil, tape and hope, but we wanted something more solid so we built one out of n°100 copper mesh and some 2020 aluminium extrusions!
You can use a microwave oven as a very cheap faraday cage. Just don't turn it on.
The door of a microwave typically doesn't form an RF-tight seal. Instead there's a groove that forms a resonant trap at the microwave's operating frequency. So it'll probably block 2.4-GHz ISM-band stuff like Bluetooth (I don't actually know how wide the trap band is compared to a BT or wifi channel), but outside that band all bets are off.
You are replying to the article author. He knows you can use a microwave oven as a very cheap faraday cage. He tried that, but it wasn't good enough.
I assume he needed it to have a small opening in the cage to shove the Raspberry Pi through it (to broadcast new SSIDs)
Does this reset itself after a certain amount of time or is it one and done? I'd be worried about the feature being removed when the iPad or airpods decide they've been in India for too long.
Heya! One of the authors here.
Nope, its a one time thing. When the feature is enabled, a flag is set on the iCloud account, so you can travel anywhere and have it work. At the same time, a EQ profile is pushed to the transparency mode of the Airpods, enabling the hearing aid features.
Once done, it sticks with the Airpods, unless you reset them.
However, an interesting quirk is that if you enable this on someone's airpods, and _their_ device/account does not have it 'available', they wont be able to tweak the settings on their device.
I wonder if the flag gets reset every so often if the device doesn't think it's in the US for a long period of time. I've heard Apple considered that for some of the other EU restrictions
Probably not to account for people spending lots of time outside the US. The main restriction is not selling items with particular features outside of approved countries but them getting used after being bought elsewhere isn't usually a big deal. India doesn't care about my Grandma wearing her hearing aids because they're not approved in India and if the government doesn't care where's the incentive for Apple to break functionality for customers?
I live in India and I have been using hearing aid feature since at least March when I bought Airpods Pro. Only that it wasn’t called as such earlier. It uses the audiogram I had provided it which it used to create a customized equalizer for my hearing disability. I am sure they must have improved upon the capability in new OS versions but functionally it has been present for a while now.
I suppose the difference is 1st party support for creating the audiogram, plus the clearance from the US gov to market it the way they want as OTC hearing aids
It also applied the same profile to both ears, which matters for some. My hearing loss is highly asymmetric.
Does it still do that? I understand it had problems with asymetric hearing loss earlier.
Still did it on 18.0. It just averaged the two ears into a single profile.
Very cool, glad it sticks.
This showcases why free software is important. Geo-locking is a such hostile practice which makes zero sense here.
If the software/firmware was free and open, you’d be able to patch out/disable the geo-lock. But it probably wouldn’t be there in the first place…
Yes it does make sense in the general case.
In the approved countries a regulatory body has had to approve this as a medical aid. If medical aids etc did not have to be approved then things that actually hurt and kill people could be sold as medical aids.
The issue here is that this case appears to be a non damaging aid and so it looks silly to ban it. But regulations have to work otherwise they are of no use.
The issue here is either regulators in other countries are slow or in the worst case Apple has not applied for approval.
Thank God for regulators! How dangerous would life be otherwise. How could we live without them?
Then you still have the issue of whole-system incentives. With free software, there is no incentive to prevent OpenHearingAids from working in France, since it's provided at the user's own risk, and installed by the user themselves, who don't have to ask permission to do so. But when a company controls the process, that company is responsible for everything.
It's somewhat similar in spirit to the end-to-end encryption issue: government agencies can demand platforms hand over copies of users' messages if they have them, but they can't force platforms to have them, resulting in platforms going out of their way to not have copies of users' messages. If a platform went out of its way to not have control over the software its users run (this describes most non-Apple general computing platforms) then it can't be forced to regulate that software. If it does, it can.
Is this actually different from the custom transparency mode in accessibility / headphone accommodations that existed before they even announced the hearing aid feature? It can use an audiogram stored in the health app. sounds pretty terrible with custom transparency mode though, a bit like a comb filter.
Exactly. I don’t think it’s different. I have been its user since March.
This is fantastic! We're building a walk-in-closet-sized Faraday cage at i3Detroit, though of course we're in the US so we won't need it for this specific hack, there's a zillion reasons it's fun to have one!
Off the top of my head:
The biggie is that we're right down the street from WOMC's transmitter, which is 135,000 watts EIRP. It gets into EVERYTHING and makes other RF measurements more difficult, so if you're trying to align an amplifier or something, it's nice to start from a quiet place and get the basics solid, and only THEN add sources of potential intermod and stuff.
Debugging wifi, bluetooth, and other wireless stuff without a zillion other nodes in view. Yes you can filter the output of a sniffer, but it's more fun to filter the input. ;)
Lighting up a 1G or 2G cellular network without worrying about spectrum licensing.
Practicing offensive wifi techniques or other stuff that might interfere with the hackerspace's existing network.
Playing with GPS spoofers in an FCC-free zone. Or anything else you might find amusing but want to do responsibly.
Locking an iPhone in there to see if it reboots itself... (rofl)
Yes!!
Shocked we made it this far in life without one! Itching to put devices inside and light the air inside up without worrying about licensing!
We actually ended up seeing a life size Faraday cage at Indian Institute of Science—felt good to see that the construction was similar to our approach
Certificate pinning should be pretty easy to solve in this particular case: just get a proxy/VPN! The Faraday cage shenanigans are pretty cool though.
You might need to explain how a VPN solves the certificate pinning issue; the author is already modifying the phone's HTTP/S traffic via a proxied network connection, and a VPN doesn't (to my knowledge) allow you to forge valid HTTPS responses using the pinned server certificate.
Sorry, should have clarified: instead of faking the response, you can connect to Apple’s servers through a US proxy. They will see you have a US IP address and return the corresponding location code, all over properly signed HTTPS.
There are a few caveats (e.g. using a residential or mobile proxy would look less suspicious, in case Apple looks out for datacenter IP ranges), but I think it should work.
He tried that. The phone knows its location using GPS and wifi. Apple doesn't care about your IP
You don't need to modify the HTTPS traffic. You get a VPS that is in the US, and set the device up so that when it requests the domain (gspe1-ssl.ls.apple.com) that the IP address returned is not an Apple IP address, but the VPS IP.
The VPS simply forwards traffic on port 443 to gspe1-ssl.ls.apple.com.
Have you seen success with this method?
That's exactly what we did in the end—used a commercial VPN and provided internet to the device over the USB cable. Could have probably used a Tailscale on a VPS somewhere too.
What he meant to say is, all your efforts were of no use, just use VPN in the ipad and the location will change.
But I suppose, in this case Apple is deliberately using the wifi signals, not relying on IP so "just use VPN" doesn't work.
Eh, how does using a VPN make it easier to MITM attack yourself and modify the response of that GET request?
Sorry, should have made it more clear! Basically there’s no need to MITM at all here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42122270
Can this be used to get EU specific features too? (AltStore and such)
Probably would work, however I suspect the changes would not be as sticky.
Apple has some slightly more complex checks that they have used in the past to georestrict stuff like ECG, by using MCC/MNC codes from your mobile network. I suspect that the alt stores would be region locked and stop working outside the EU—but that remains to be tested, and seems like a fun thing to experiment with.
Don't see any reason why it wouldn't work. I suspect you don't even need a microwave in most places.
Reminds me on how I setup laptops these days for geodisplaced vpn enjoyment.
Have the laptop on the vpn even during OS install. Never run the vpn client on the laptop. Never connect to any other network. Use the target's localisation (language, kb, timezone) during install. Have a dedicated browser with detailed location features turned off for your target sites.
Some Chinese users have discovered a more effective way to bypass geo-locking, even on iPhones (some Apple Health features require approval and can only be enabled on iPhone, not iPad).
TLDR, iPhones prioritize external GPS devices over internal ones. All you need is a "fake" lightning or USB-C external GPS device that tells your device where you want it to think it is.
Source: https://www.v2ex.com/t/1075937
Yeah, Apple sometimes checks MCC/MNC on the cellular network as well, for some reason they chose not to lock it down that way here.
However, if they did lock it to require an iPhone, the way we would activate would be by using our Faraday cage to spoof GPS inside it, and maybe a spoofed base station.
How can the GET request be modified if it uses HTTPS? You can spoof certificates on iOS devices with dev tools?
Looking forward to further write ups on faraday cages, design and uses. That was great what you did with the air pods.
Does anyone know what the Hearing Protection mode does? It's not available in Norway (or anywhere outside of NAmerica).
I've used the AirPods Pro 2 as hearing protection for some stuff before, it works fine. Is it just due to the words ("Hearing Protection") which they are only allowed to use only in America or is it actually better than regular Pro 2 noise-cancelling?
I'm pretty sure all that's new is the hearing test app and marketing. AirPods already had these features.
From listening to it work HP sounds to me like multiband compression, in other words divide up the audible spectrum into multiple bands and apply compression on each one individually. Again it was already doing this though.
Is the hearing aid feature unavailable if you use the AirPods with an Android?
You need to set it up using Apple device, then it works with Android.
I'm not a genius but it seems pretty trivial to take the input from a microphone and pipe it to the output of a speaker, the hardest part probably is the device drivers for the airpods (or any bluetooth ear buds for that matter). It looks like others have already done this in hardware [0] for $84.99 on amazon.com. There is also "Sound Amplifier" app for Apple iPhone [1] that amplifies the surrounding voice near the phone.
[0] https://www.amazon.com/Hearing-Seniors-Rechargeable-Bluetoot...
[1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sound-amplifier/id1615079093
It’s really not that simple. AirPods settings where you can tune audio for vocal range, balanced tone, brightness or your audiogram - which does much more fine tuning to the sounds you hear than just amplification.
It sounds like they also do multiband compression (hearing protection) and multiband transparency/cancelling mixing (adaptive mode) on top of applying EQ (audiogram support) and things like accelerometer and wideband tracking for spatial audio.
There's quite a bit of processing going on on-device.
Don’t know if running the microwave does much, since there are plenty of 5Ghz access points around too.
5GHz has quite low penetrating power, so for the most part our issue was 2.4GHz.
Does anyone know which decompilation tool produces these graphs, as shown in the blog post?
Found it out myself, https://binary.ninja/
Yep, sorry!
It is Binary Ninja
>modern devices position you within cities by using a combination of WiFi SSIDs + MAC addresses of routers and devices around you as well as GPS to triangulate your location. This was also the reason that our WiFi only iPad was able to display an accurate location in apps even though it had neither GPS nor cellular.
can't wait for this to find its way into Tomahawk missiles as a fallback for the jammed GPS environment
They can already perform accurate strikes without GPS with terrain following and INS so not sure this would actually help it that much.
I bought AirPods Pro this year and it has been disappointing compared to the first gen non pro I had previously.
Somehow they fall out of my if i adjust my head down.
Battery life is good though
I’ve found that aftermarket memory foam eartips work much better than the stock ones for keeping them in my ears.
SednaEarFit Crystal work best for me - they're sticky and sound better than the foam ones.
Yep. I'm kind of shocked Apple doesn't offer these as they must be a huge moneymaker.
awesome hacking...
> Hearing aids typically cost anywhere from ₹ 50,000 to upwards of ₹ 8L depending on the correction capability
For those who don't recognize the ₹ symbol it is the symbol for the Indian Rupee and an "L" after a number means 100,000, so ₹ 8L is ₹ 800,000.
At current exchange rates that puts hearing aids in India from $600 to upwards of $9,500.
AirPods Pro 2 are ₹ 24,900 ($295).
I’m not across the scope of hearing aid technology, but what does the product at that upper tier actually look like, and how much does it cost in another country?
I’m envisioning some highly specialised and tuned implant at that price.
You generally get a custom mold for your ear canals and a specially tuned DSP for your frequency curves + BT connection to your phone for calls, at least. Your device can be retuned over and over as long as it functions, too.
What drives the prices up is a multitude of factors: High end DSPs, micro speakers which can do good sound reproduction at required frequencies, relatively low sales volume, R&D expenses and of course an insatiable appetite for profits.
These things always cost and arm and a leg in here, too.
Not to mention that this is paid by insurance in many countries which means there is little incentive for individuals to shop around.
It might be, but in my country, you buy them for the most occasions. I'm not aware if any insurance policy pays for them, even.
Thanks for posting this. I recognized the currency symbol but was confused by the "L".
The Indian numbering system marks odd power of ten, i.e. 10 ^ {1, 3, 5, 7}. Unit, thousand, lakh, crore [1].
Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera.
> Ours, on the other hand, does it mod 3, e.g. 10 ^ {1, 3, 6, 9}. Thousands, millions, billions, et cetera.
To make matters more confusing, for American English it goes millions, billions, trillions. For British English it used to go millions, milliards, billions, billiards, trillions, trilliards. (That 'long scale' is still the way German used to work ten years ago. No clue if it changed in the meantime.)
I still mourn the long scale. A billion is obviously a million millions.
Thanks! In germany we use the long scale, and this is the first time it clicks.
"Eine Billion" is Million² bi -> 2 "Eine Billiarde" is 1000 * Million² "Eine Trillion" is million³ tri -> 3 "Eine Trilliarde" is 1000 * Million³ And so on
Yes I knew what a million, milliard, billion, billiarde and so on are, but it never made click that the long scale makes so much sense.
I feel like at that point, I would rather just use scientific notation (10^x).
I also like the easy suffix for thousand (k), million (M), billion (B), trillion (T), quadrillion (Q) for written conversation. $10B revenue, 5k liters, 300M people, etc.
It is less intuitive for me as an outsider that a trillion would be a million million millions instead of a billion billions
You can make an argument for that, but neither system does that so it's not very relevant to the choice.
I think an exponential system would do better to have a different naming scheme.
Maybe, but either way is relatively quickly to learn by rote for the few orders of magnitude that come up in 'daily life'.
For anything bigger, you'd use 'scientific' notation anyway.
Haven't we given up on our scale in the UK to match the US system?
i.e. the milliard was replaced with the US billion.
Anecdotally, a milliard in French is a billion in English.