Can I ask why developers would prefer a laptop over a desktop? I know it's off topic, but I see this question on HN an awful lot and I scratch my head each time.
Desktop PCs are:
- Cheaper
- More repairable and upgradable
- More options for hardware
- Better thermals
- A full monitor(s), keyboard, and mouse, instead of a rinky-dink keyboard and trackpad
Even if a laptop is wanted for portability, a good desktop + a cheap laptop as a portable terminal still comes out cheaper than most mid- or high-end laptops. The laptop also gets better battery life from not having tons of ram or power-sucking processors and GPUs.
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I’ve been very happy and impressed with the Framework AMD edition. I’d steer clear of their Core Ultra Intel edition since that’s Meteor Lake. I use mine for open source development things I do on my own time.
If work supplied me with one of them I’d happily use it. Support has been great and they live up to their upgradable promise.
What happens with Meteor Lake?
Also, how's the noise?
I have a Dell Latitude 7490 (2019), bought secondhand from ebay. Works great for me, but I put Linux on it and I've been able to trim it down to only the essentials (Alpine Linux with Sway). Barely warm and the screen is 157dpi so nice enough for text.
If you're going with Windows, you can have much more recent hardware with no worry about compatibility (I'd take the Surface for the 3:2 screen ratio). But these days, I tend to use a desktop as I'm spending most of my time on my desk with a good keyboard and a nice 4k 24" screen (I ssh from the laptop when I'm on the couch).
I have a 7490 that I adore - upgraded ram to 64G and it runs very nicely. The speaker volume being a bit low is the only negative I'd mention.
anything with an amd pro cpu, and ram slots. then buy the slow crappy true ecc sodim marketed to NAS boxes sold at obscene premium.
I'd personally go for a framework Ryzen, but also heard good things about LG gram.
The framework has a few disadvantages one of which is the bad speakers.
My personal wishlist for framework:
Coreboot support
Better speakers
ECC RAM support
LPCAMM2 support (modern RAM to save power and space)Depends on what you're developing and what you want. I got a mid-level AMD based Acer. I don't even remember the specs but something like 6-8 cores and 16-32GB RAM, and probably on yhe lower end of that range. After removing the bloatware, it works just fine. It cost about $450 from ANTonline. I do smaller personal projects on it, with the most resource intensive being some Android dev with emulation, or maybe some "small" big data analysis. If you were running multiple large servers for a single project and running performance tests, then I'd probably get something beefier. Anything graphics intensive would benefit from a discrete graphics card. At that point, you might be better off setting up a desktop or workstation and just remoting in from a cheap refurbished thinkpad.
I personally love my Vivobook. It doesn't get too hot or loud and was a good price.
I actually built a tool to compare laptops that you might find useful: https://comparelaptopprices.com
Thinkpads, Dell XPS or Precision.
I like my hp spectre. Not sure if they still make them, but I had no issues with it. Use lenovo carbon for work and can recommend them too.
Framework is most configurable, but I have no personal experience.
I've been happy with a Dell XPS 15, basically maxed-out on specs when it was new 3+ years ago. No problems to speak of.
Please define "doesn't suck"
Renewed Lenovo Thinkpads are around $200 or less on Amazon.