• snvzz 2 days ago

    A few years ago, it looked like Turkey would be joining the EU.

    But then it derailed. Really hard.

    • tchbnl 2 days ago

      Yes, Erdogan has really dragged Turkey back. It picked up after that "coup" attempt that he used to arrest anybody who disagreed with him, be it soldiers or even judges.

      It's so sad to see Turkey turn out like this, but there's nobody that can do anything except their own citizens.

      • throw49sjwo1 2 days ago

        Few years ago? Must be more than a decade - or would you specify how many years ago do you mean?

        • xinayder 2 days ago

          it happened in 2016

          • throw49sjwo1 a day ago

            Yeah, but Turkey went way far away from EU much earlier.

        • deutschepost 2 days ago

          Sadly they already joined the NATO.

          • CoastalCoder 2 days ago

            allies =/= friends

          • hulitu 21 hours ago

            > A few years ago, it looked like Turkey would be joining the EU

            They have a handicap though, they are muslim. That's why EU does not want them. But EU is playing theater and gives them false hopes.

            • t0bia_s a day ago

              Looks like both want control over internet traffic and chat.

            • egorfine 2 days ago

              What does Turkey have in common with Russia? They both have blocked Discord simultaneously. What a synergy!

              • diggan 2 days ago

                Both are in BRICS? Are there other BRICS countries who also blocked Discord? Maybe the news organizations don't care much about smaller nations like Burkina Fasa blocking Discord.

                • dizhn 2 days ago

                  Turkey is not in BRICS.

                  • Log_out_ a day ago

                    Is brics the name of a alliance or a regional war?

                  • CoastalCoder 2 days ago

                    > What a synergy!

                    Jakov Smirnoff homage?

                  • maven29 2 days ago

                    Malware authors in shambles. No point in mourning a platform that neglects user safety and comfort to this extent.

                    • snvzz 2 days ago

                      Could you elaborate on this.

                      • oglop 2 days ago

                        Sure. Discord is a magnet for child sex abuse and money scams. The end.

                      • nextlevelwizard a day ago

                        I have no idea what you are on about. I have used Discord for many years without any issues about safety or comfort.

                      • demarq 2 days ago

                        Before you make too many assumptions:

                        > The block comes after public outrage in Turkey caused by the murder of two women by a 19-year-old man in Istanbul this month. Content on social media showed Discord users subsequently praising the killing.

                        This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram

                        • squigz 2 days ago

                          > This is what would happen anywhere else in the world

                          On every single large social media platform, people praise and applaud the death of individuals and entire races of people, all the time. Yet Facebook, Twitter and related sites aren't blocked in most of the world. What's up with that?

                          • demarq 2 days ago

                            Nope.

                            If murder or terrorism happened in France or UK and a social media platform refused to assist the authorities, There. Would. Be. Consequences.

                            • hulitu 21 hours ago

                              > Yet Facebook, Twitter and related sites aren't blocked in most of the world. What's up with that?

                              You don't want to upset people from the capital (Washington). /s

                            • DrillShopper 2 days ago

                              > This is what would happen anywhere else in the world

                              lmao wtf no it wouldn't. Truth Social is used literally every day (by some) to call for the assassination of politicians belonging to the Democractic party, the party currently in power, and it has not been banned.

                              Maybe Erdogan and the rest of Turkey should grow a slightly thicker skin.

                              • 8note 2 days ago

                                However, you still see the US banning non-US controlled social media, eg. TikTok. Silly dances and cat videos are are too much for the American government 's skin, when they can say no to the NSA and FBI

                              • nitwit005 2 days ago

                                I would not take their stated reasons seriously.

                                They seem not to be a fan of social media in general, and have blocked a long list of social media sites. They even blocked Wikipedia until their constitutional court overturned the ban.

                                • demarq a day ago

                                  That’s absolutely true.

                                  It’s also true that they do have a point in this unfortunate event.

                                  Both can be true.

                                • lm28469 2 days ago

                                  This is ridiculous, if any platform on which "users praised _illegal things_" were banned every single website in the world would be banned.

                                  > This is what would happen anywhere else in the world, see the last incident between France and telegram

                                  Telegram wasn't banned in France

                                  There is a (very wide) spectrum between full censorship due to a few "users" and complete freedom to the point of being the backbone of illegal cartels

                                  • demarq 2 days ago

                                    That’s because they had access to the founder and threatened him imprisonment.

                                    And why does everyone who replies to me leave behind the main point on the article?

                                    It’s not “just” people said something’s here. It’s that in response to a very real crime , the authorities were denied assistance by the platform.

                                    It’s like saying that telegram was in trouble because people said some stuff. Nope, telegram in trouble for not cooperating with the government.

                                    • justinclift 2 days ago

                                      > ... every single website in the world would be banned.

                                      Doesn't seem to be even slightly true, as not every website in the world has that crap.

                                  • StefanBatory 2 days ago

                                    People are happy about censorship as long as it doesn't invoke them, I guess seeing reactions.

                                    • hyperG a day ago

                                      Tolerance for ideas one disagrees with has a very short history in space and time. Intolerance in this area seems to be the long run equilibrium and we are simply returning from a far from equilibrium state that could only last so long.

                                      • ThrowawayTestr 2 days ago

                                        People were cheering when Brazil banned Twitter. Go figure.

                                      • AbuAssar 2 days ago

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                                        • tekla 2 days ago

                                          Only "matters" in diplomatic context. Otherwise Turkey is still considered completely acceptable