Then you've got people voting against it: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/full-list-of-republi...
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This topic seems to have triggered the organic US crazies, or a whole ton of agitprop bots.
Sounds like what Puerto Rico experienced with Irma and Maria in 2017. 2 hurricanes, 2 weeks apart.
In PR Irma passed over the north. Mainly rain and some gusts. Nothing too bad on the sustained winds.
With everything still a mess, María hit. Not fully recovered yet.
Hope it fairs better since they can plan and coordinate driving in right after to clean, bring supplies, and help.
Wonder how Florida's insurance market will hold up ...
Just wondering, but what would it take for something like parts of Florida, New Orleans, etc. to just flood and stay flooded? What if we had multiple hurricanes back-to-back-to-back for a month? a whole summer?
Permanent sea level rise or removal of any barrier islands/structures.
Back-to-back hurricanes only flood places temporarily due to storm surge.
The sea-level rise to wipe out FL also wipes out MANY other coastal locations all across the world.
Probably the collapse of the doomsday glacier. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/20/climate/doomsday-glacier-thwa...
Couldn't costs be defrayed by requiring forfeiture of certain classes of uninsurable assets (such as houses built on barrier islands) in exchange for receiving aid?
It might even be possible to go further, and prevent certain locations from receiving federal insurance for a period (say, 100 years) after a payout. Make the federal flood insurance program an incentive to rebuild elsewhere.
While this makes a lot of sense in theory (I do agree that people need to be moving away from flood plains), this policy would create a nightmare of downstream effects. Such as, substantially increasing housing/land/construction prices elsewhere, as you have a flood of insurance filled wallets looking for new areas to move. It may even incentivize moving to nearby areas that were not flooded but still eligible for insurance, since they will just get paid out again. Not to mention all the political ramifications from the political willpower to pass this, to local/state electors crying against it.
There is only a finite number of areas like that and most are already built on. Even if one person collects insurance ever year it would not be an issues as the insurance is for the property and it would have been destroyed anyway the actual recipient doesn’t affect the total payout.
Not to mention: decreasing the cost of housing in stricken areas. It would be much more appealing for people with low assets.
Talk about a crappy situation.
I think this is the only way forward in Florida. You can build for certain disasters but its a lot easier to just be inland.
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FEMA Launches Web Page to Respond to Rumors and Confirm the Facts Related to Hurricane Helene Response and Recovery
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20241004/fema-launches-we...
Hurricane Helene
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene
Hurricane Helene: Rumor Response
https://www.fema.gov/disaster/current/hurricane-helene/rumor...
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Everyone within the US and/or otherwise subject to its laws is considered a constituent of Congressional representatives vis-à-vis the Constitution. All people are counted under the census, citizen or not, regardless of immigration status. Much of the Constitution and its provisions including the Bill of Rights apply to all, independent of immigration status or citizenship. Natural disasters do not discriminate. Negative externalities due to emergencies do not discriminate. For these and many other reasons - including expediency, propriety, and basic human rights, dignity, decency, etc - FEMA doesn’t discriminate in this way when it comes to emergency response. It just doesn’t make sense for them to do so given their mandate, nor would it be legal for FEMA to do so.
How is it misleading? FEMA receives its budget from Congress. The money is appropriated by Congress into buckets for specific purposes. FEMA cannot legally divert money from one bucket to another unless Congress specifically allows for it.
What is your point exactly? It seems like you are agreeing with me. That money is being spent on illegal immigrants that could otherwise be diverted to the needs of legal residents or citizens. Surely you can understand why many people who are receiving limited help are upset about this. Whether it is due to Congress or the president or the head of the agency is not really relevant. The fact that it is happening, especially when people in the agency are saying, they may not have enough funds for the rest of the season for disaster relief, is the problem. The statement that they put out is saying that money is not being moved from one bucket to the other without admitting that money is being spent on non-citizens. It is trying to cast doubt on the notion that money is being spent on illegal immigrants when it is factually the case.
What is your point exactly? It seems like you are agreeing with me. That money is being spent on tax cuts that could otherwise be diverted to the needs of legal residents and citizens.
What is your point exactly? Any of the US budget could have been used for disaster relief instead of what it was earmarked for, that doesn't mean the rest of the budget is taking away from disaster relief.
How would that work practically? What if evacuees show up at a FEMA camp and their papers were in their flooded/burned down/flattened by an earthquake house?
Congress is directing the agency via appropriations.
> So how does Trump link this to migrants? A Trump campaign spokesman pointed to FEMA’s Shelter and Services Program, which gives grants to local governments and nonprofits to take care of undocumented immigrants. Congress boosted the budget from $360 million in fiscal year 2023 to $650 million in fiscal year 2024. The program’s 2023 annual report says it provides shelter, such as hotel/motel services, food and transportation, including plane tickets up to $700 a person. As we said, Congress appropriated this money, just as it did the disaster fund. There’s no evidence that any money from the disaster fund was used to help migrants. “These claims are completely false,” DHS said in a statement Thursday night. “As Secretary Mayorkas said, FEMA has the necessary resources to meet the immediate needs associated with Hurricane Helene and other disasters. The Shelter and Services Program (SSP) is a completely separate, appropriated grant program that was authorized and funded by Congress and is not associated in any way with FEMA’s disaster-related authorities or funding streams.”
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How do non american areas fare & recover with several hurricans every summer? Also can a hurrica be steered via local weather manipulation?
> Also can a hurrica be steered via local weather manipulation?
Yes, of course. Simply consult your local community wizard.
> How do non american areas fare & recover with several hurricans every summer? Also can a hurrica be steered via local weather manipulation?
No, a hurricane cannot be steered. Use a bit of simple logic: how much energy does a hurricane carry, think about the winds, how much air mass is being moved by this force and try to think about what kind of human-generated work could move a fraction of that air mass through thermal processes to actually steer a behemoth atmospheric system with a radius many hundreds of kilometres.
What do you mean by non-Americans? There's a huge difference between Dominican Republic vs Japan, those are not the same bucket of society preparedness just because they are non-American, be more specific.
> local weather manipulation
What do you mean by this?
I don't know what this particular post means, but I've seen a disturbing amount of online crazy talk about the government being able to directly control the weather.
I was nore in the fine granular weather simulation and then find a tipping point and apply local excess heat on the butterfly wing via laser by airplane camp.
Well, some high-ranking officials have pondered nuking hurricanes in the past, though fortunately saner voices prevailed.
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It’s really starting to look like they are a waste of resources unfortunately. The federal government is just not as effective, prepared, or capable as local responses.