Based on Cloudflare R2 S3 object storage costs for 33GB of WordPress plugins, for a private WordPress plugin mirror would cost less than US$0.35/month though will rise as new plugin versions get downloaded and stored and if under generous R2 Class A/B write and read operation free monthly quota, the R2 operation costs would be free. The Cloudflare Worker costs based on past 24hrs metrics was 765K Worker requests at median of 2.1ms CPU time. So with 100K Worker requests/day free, cost would essentially be the $5/month Cloudflare Worker subscription fee as overages won't apply under their generous paid US$5/month subscription plan includes up to 10 million requests per month at average 10ms average CPU time. All up, it would be US$5.35/month starting costs which will rise as number of WordPress plugins and Worker usage increases as outlined here. Cloudflare CDN bandwidth is free of charge, so no need to worry about egress bandwidth fees.
> Cloudflare CDN bandwidth is free of charge
free of charge, until sales shows up: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808
Also, unless something's changed, the free tier only technically covers "web content". Going outside HTML and related material directly supporting the display of ordinary web pages (javascript referenced by your HTML, some light image serving, CSS) puts you outside what's covered by the TOS. You can't count on it for that at all.
IIRC that also goes for the other "self serve" plans, so includes paid plans. You need an enterprise plan (probably $5k+/m) to distribute non-Web-page-related files without violating the TOS. People often get away with it as long as they don't go too wild, but you're in even riskier territory than one already is using non-enterprise Cloudflare.
Cloudflare does allow R2 (& some other "Developer Platform" services) for non-HTML content. They made some TOS changes in the past to be more explicit about it.
Yeah, it's very much a "try it, first one is free" type of business.
I feel like the solution to wordpress-the-org being mismanaged is not to build better replacement infra around wordpress, but to build better publishing tools that don’t burn a mysql connection and require php get executed on every pageview.
WordPress has literally millions of Web sites in production, tons of add-on software, and an ecosystem of companies and people providing solutions for it. Suggesting that the solution is "well, just start from scratch with something else" is unlikely to get you very far.
It is far easier and more likely that the community around WordPress would rally around replacing WP.org than starting over from scratch with a new toolkit. Some people might flee WP altogether, but the majority of people and companies just want to get things done - not seeing them having a lot of tolerance for or interest in having to start again from square one.
Bad software gets popularised all the time, there is nothing wrong with having alternatives and having more choices. I strongly think we need some good alternatives to Wordpress, as someone who has been in the publishing industry in the last decade.
Also, Wordpress doesn't scale well (without getting expensive), the code is bad, it is poorly managed, security issues are all over the place. It's about time we got some alternatives.
>Suggesting that the solution is "well, just start from scratch with something else" is unlikely to get you very far.
To be fair, the first and best solution most people in these parts have is "Fork it, I'm going to make my own Linux distro." or something along those lines.
No, they don't get very far but I will credit their consistency.
No impossible but hard work.
I guess you MVP would be something that could do simple brochure websites and be easy to extend. Design it so it is easy to install for individuals or web hosting companies. Maybe plan ahead for things like multi-site, blogging, eCommerce. etc
With all the competition and even the MVP is going to be a lot of work, especially since the average user won't be very technical.
There was an effort made and it was acquired by Automattic https://frontity.org/
What's that pg quote about the internet routing around such and such?
> The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.
Apparently [0] John Gilmore [1] said it.
Unfortunately, with the sizes of data these days, this isn’t remotely true, if it even ever was.
centminmod itself is pretty great if you want a stable easy lemp stack for EL. And makes WP management easy as well