• randogp 5 hours ago

    The EU publishes monthly bulletins around DNA surveillance programs. "The bulletin summarise the reported results and findings from European national wastewater surveillance programmes. It also informs about the local surveillance projects and non-EU countries participating as observers" https://wastewater-observatory.jrc.ec.europa.eu/#/bulletin

    • eskathos 6 hours ago

      The danish government has been doing that for a while, with open data available per region: https://en.ssi.dk/surveillance-and-preparedness/surveillance...

      They also lead the EU wide project to track infections across the largest cities across europe: https://en.ssi.dk/surveillance-and-preparedness/internationa...

    • rsktaker 7 hours ago

      My university recently discovered a covid outbreak at my freshman dorm by testing the wastewater; that was the first I heard about the technique. It's especially effective for this use case: "Traces of SARS-CoV-2 can show up in an infected person’s feces days before any symptoms are detected, and even when a person ultimately shows no symptoms at all." [1]

      [1] https://adminvc.ucla.edu/expanded-wastewater-testing-program....

      • worstspotgain 9 hours ago

        Wastewater hits in SF reported back in June:

        SF Chronicle: https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/h5n1-avian-flu-sa...

        LA Times: https://archive.is/VSjBB

        • ethbr1 8 hours ago

          Part of the article's suggestion is to better differentiate monitoring points, so as to divide farm-related hits from urban hits.

          That said, in cities that have combined storm and sewer system, the latter is a lot more difficult.

          But in general, it is a uniquely politically-palatable continuous monitoring solution.

          The public doesn't want to think about what happens underneath a toilet or drain, so no one cares if someone is sampling and testing it.

          • worstspotgain 7 hours ago

            SF has a combined sewer system, but it has zero farms. One question is whether it was more likely to be a signal from wild birds (into the runoff system) than humans (into the sewer.)

            There's very little rain in the summer months, the average for July rounds off to 0.0in. I don't remember if there was any significant rain in May or June, but I'd be surprised if it was more than 1-5% of the total. I guess there's lawn irrigation, though.

            • dredmorbius 6 hours ago

              SF has pretty limited lawn irrigation as well. Depending on how the sewerage system is divided, some parts of the city have effectively none.

              • worstspotgain 6 hours ago

                There are three sewersheds [1] but we don't know which one the signal was detected in (or do we?) If it was the Northpoint one (~ NE quadrant) there aren't as many lawns there. There are a few small parks, street cleaning and whatnot.

                [1] https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Cal...

            • Terr_ 8 hours ago

              Also, it's not so finely-grained that it seems like a privacy problem.

          • tonetegeatinst 9 hours ago

            Pretty sure I heard wastewater can be used to detect sudden spikes of drug usage or sudden outbreaks. Not surprising.

            • pfdietz an hour ago

              Also, drugs can be used to track wastewater. For example, the quantity of wastewater flowing into a river can be estimated by measuring caffeine in the river's water.

              • doubled112 35 minutes ago

                I might be an overachiever here. Finally I’m a 10xer!

              • misja111 2 hours ago

                Yes, check e.g. the map in this page https://www.euda.europa.eu/publications/html/pods/waste-wate..., it's pretty cool

                • te_chris 6 hours ago

                  London's flows with coke

                • wigster an hour ago

                  why not just put the word "genetic/genome" at the front of that headline?

                  *kers.

                  • worstspotgain 9 hours ago
                    • osigurdson 5 hours ago

                      Aren't most jurisdictions doing this now?