• sieste 2 days ago

    Largely driven by high fraction of natural gas in British energy mix. British gas production in the north sea has declined, no more imports from Russia and now 60% of imported gas comes from Norway[1], which is more expensive.

    [1]https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/natural-gas-chapter...

    • 4ndrewl 2 days ago

      And the previous government closed pretty much all our storage capacity, disabling any ability to buy at lower prices and store for later use.

    • bell-cot 2 days ago

      (Developed world only.)

      Of those countries where geography precludes easy imports from competent neighbors, is there any which has generally had lower-functioning government over the past half-ish century?

      • tim333 2 days ago

        It's rather annoying as a brit. Apparently the wholesale cost of electricty is about 7p in the UK but I get charged 25p. Something not very efficient is going on.

        • NikkiA 2 days ago

          Profit extraction, and it's very efficient

          • mprev 2 days ago

            Around 30% is climate levy and similar taxes, plus there’s 5% VAT.

            • sahmeepee 2 days ago

              If 30% is climate levy then that's some rather cheap electricity, because the climate levy is less than 1p/kWh.

              https://www.gov.uk/guidance/climate-change-levy-rates

              This is what happens when people treat the Telegraph as news rather than a source of disinformation used by wealthy vested interests to manipulate public opinion.

          • bell-cot 2 days ago

            7p looks a tad optimistic, but only a tad - https://energy-stats.uk/wholesale-energy-pricing/

            That I'm aware of, the "wholesale cost" does not include the local distribution networks. Those cost a fair number of pence to build and maintain.

            And - I vaguely recall that the UK had world-beating taxes and surcharges on electricity - some for "green" reasons, some to spread the agony of the staggering cost overruns at new British nuclear plants, and some to help shore up the government's "general budget" financial woes.

          • wffurr 2 days ago
            • the_real_cher 2 days ago

              Britain seems like such a crazy dystopia these days.

              cameras everywhere, immigration overwhelming natives in certain neighborhoods, ASBOs, some of the highest rent prices in the world, average economy.

              how are middle class britons doing?

              • naming_the_user a day ago

                You need to define middle class properly in order to answer this question.

                Actual middle class Brits who own property - fairly decently. There are some headwinds with regards to things like energy prices etc but it's mostly fine.

                "Middle class" Brits e.g. sons and daughters of the middle class who are renting (often sharing), not so great. It's relatively difficult to buy nowadays because we stopped building.

                • tonyedgecombe 2 days ago

                  >cameras everywhere

                  Less cameras per-capita than the US.

                  > ASBOs

                  ASBOs were abolished in England and Wales in 2014.

                  >some of the highest rent prices in the world, average economy.

                  In London which doesn't have an average economy.

                  • jmholla 2 days ago

                    > Less cameras per-capita than the US.

                    I think comparison to density with regards to land mass and not number of people would be a more relevant comparison.

                    • olddustytrail 2 days ago

                      No it wouldn't.

                    • the_real_cher 17 hours ago

                      I'm not from there so sorry I'm behind on some of this stuff.

                      It does look like on the wiki they were abolished however they were replaced by something else?

                      I don't know enough about it. The idea of an ASBO when I read about it sounded insane abuse of power to me.

                      ""ASBOs were replaced in England and Wales by the civil injunctions and criminal behaviour orders"'

                      • vfclists 2 days ago

                        ASBOs still exist. They have just been given a different name. Do your homework.

                        How about the IPP prison sentences which still exist.

                        • tonyedgecombe 21 hours ago

                          >ASBOs still exist. They have just been given a different name.

                          Well how about using the correct name then?

                          >How about the IPP prison sentences which still exist.

                          Ended in 2012: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imprisonment_for_public_protec...

                          >Do your homework.

                          Good advice, perhaps you should take it.

                      • cedws a day ago

                        It’s terrible and I’m currently arranging my escape to Asia. And I’m one of the lucky ones.

                        • orf 2 days ago

                          Eh, not bad. Don’t believe everything you read online.

                      • jacknews 2 days ago

                        Seems like Britain still pays the highest price for almost anything, in the world, and used to be known by international traders as 'treasure island', and I guess still is.

                        • indemnity a day ago

                          I was quite surprised when car shopping, that prices in New Zealand (always pretty expensive, being a small market far away from the rest of the world), were on average 20% to 30% less than the UK. Including European brands and vehicles actually manufactured in the UK, like the Nissan Qashqai.

                          • sieste a day ago

                            compare grocery store prices between uk and us. you'll be surprised.