• Tiktaalik 3 hours ago

    I know that there's been rumblings of 7/11 in the USA spinning up more food options with an eye to how things are done by its parent in Japan, but it really can't come soon enough. Get a move on! 7/11 in Japan with its onigiri is amazing and I'm desperate for these style of convenience stores with their options to make their way over here to USA and Canada.

    • teractiveodular 3 hours ago

      7/11 in Australia, which is generally terrible but was acquired by the Japanese operator of 7/11 last year, recently rolled out onigiris nationwide after a successful trial in Victoria. So there's hope yet!

      • scelerat 2 hours ago

        How are they?

        I'm in California -- I love the konbinis in Japan, and while 7-Eleven's recent announcements to offer more konbini-like food and experience sounds great, I fear it's going to fall far short of the mark because I think it's a combination of ingredients, supply chain, and employee processes and practices. Like, all those things need to be on point to deliver a quality onigiri or egg salad sandwich, and I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the US-based 7-Elevens to deliver without massive changes.

        (And to be clear, I don't think there has been any mention of onigiri appearing at US-based 7-Eleven, they have have announced better/different prepared sandwich offerings)

        • pknomad 2 hours ago

          > I fear it's going to fall far short of the mark because I think it's a combination of ingredients, supply chain, and employee processes and practices

          Same here as well.

          Part of the charm of konbinis (and Japan to an extent) is the friendly atmosphere. Foods are fresh (delivered daily and inventory churn is consumer friendly) and people working at these places (despite being not high-paying) have higher level of care of how customers are treated. 7-11 here by comparison are... definitely not that.

      • rootsudo 2 hours ago

        Would you pay $6.99 for a onigiri?

        Sure they're ~120 JPY-240JPY. But it wouldn't be the same price. Plus would they really sell them in the USA?

        Same for more of the other options, I don't see it really happening. There's a reason hotdogs, nachos and whatever else they offer in USA is the norm. That's what the market takes and settles on and even then, it's over $5.

        • durumu 4 minutes ago

          That seems way too high. I live in Manhattan and I pay $2.50-$2.75 for onigiri depending on the filling.

          • Tiktaalik 2 hours ago

            Honestly even at this high price point I’d still be saving money from current lunch options.

            That’s how bad food inflation has been. It’s challenging at this point to get a lunch cheaper than C$15.

            • j7ake an hour ago

              A typical American won’t be satisfied on the calories of one onigiri for lunch.

            • lbotos 2 hours ago

              Uh, I buy Onigiri in NYC at Dainobu and I'm pretty sure it's $2.99 MAX $4.99.

              I think in many metros they could have a market esp if they did some sort of anime tie in.

              • pknomad 2 hours ago

                I hope so!

            • RajT88 3 hours ago

              My wife is opening a drive-thru restaurant which serves these (among other Asian foods like musubi and lumpia and such). Pricing as of now looks like $3 a pop, which is comparable to the pricing at the local Mitsuwa. Convenience store onigiri in Japan are of course generally a lot cheaper (especially with the current exchange rate).

              https://www.tsunagujapan.com/16-top-selling-items-at-lawson-...

              • electriclove 3 hours ago

                Where at?

                • RajT88 2 hours ago

                  Bolingbrook, IL. As of now - opening date seems like late Nov., but of course we're new to the resto business and there's a learning curve on all of the non-food bits of it.

                  • tmpz22 an hour ago

                    Do you think the $3 price is sustainable or optimistic? My dream would be to make enough dough to start a restaurant affordable and friendly enough to become a community hub. Best of luck on your venture!

                    • kyawzazaw 16 minutes ago

                      I feel like $5 is not too expensive

              • maupin 21 minutes ago

                These are what I miss most about my years living in Japan. I made them for my kids a few weeks ago and they adored them. You can buy plastic-lined seaweed sheets to fold the rice into, so opening them is almost the same experience as onigiri from a Japanese conbini. For a filling, I just mixed together some tuna, salt, and mayo.

                • thenewwazoo 2 hours ago

                  Having never had one, are onigiri filled with anything? I think of eating something that's basically entirely rice and wonder where's the protein? It seems to just be all simple carbs, which feels like a setup for an insulin spike and sugar crash.

                  • Jcampuzano2 2 hours ago

                    When I was in Japan for a while you could get them filled with all sorts of things. The most common I recall were tuna and mayo or chicken with teriyaki sauce or soy sauce and they're delicious. I'd have one or two a day.

                    • n1b0m 8 minutes ago

                      The pickled plum ones I had in Tokyo were delicious

                      • j7ake an hour ago

                        It’s most like carb. Most Japanese diet is much more carb heavy than a typical Californian diet.

                        • dagmx 2 hours ago

                          Yes they’re usually filled with some kind of filling. Often a fish or meat filling.

                          They’re essentially like a dumpling.

                          • thenewwazoo 2 hours ago

                            Oh so more than just what’s on top? Neato.

                            • HideousKojima 2 hours ago

                              When I make them at home I usually stuff them with teriyaki chicken

                            • scelerat 2 hours ago

                              tuna plus mayo and umeboshi (tart, pickled plum) are my two favorite onigiri stuffings

                          • kaycebasques 4 hours ago

                            Fond memories of grabbing a few of these in the little shop within Shimokitazawa station, people watching with my wife as we wolfed them down, then heading off to the train with satisfied stomaches to explore Tokyo.

                            Are they hard to make at home? I haven't found great/reliable spots to get these in SF. (Where are the great SF spots for these??)

                            • bigstrat2003 3 hours ago

                              > Are they hard to make at home?

                              A bit. I've tried it but didn't have a ton of success. Main thing I found is use plastic wrap when trying to shape the rice, or else it tends to stick to your hands more than it sticks to itself.

                              • teachrdan 3 hours ago

                                You have to keep your hands at least moist to keep the rice from sticking. I make a small bowl of warm salty water handy when making onigiri to season while I shape.

                                • metalcring an hour ago

                                  I was running into the same issue. I recently bought some cheap molds off of amazon and it makes shaping them a breeze.

                                  Fill bottom half with rice > Add Filling > Top off with rice > Press and done!

                                  • RodgerTheGreat 2 hours ago

                                    Another option that I find works well when I'm preparing a large batch is to use nylon gloves. They don't adhere to rice nearly as much as latex gloves.

                                    • throwup238 3 hours ago

                                      Did you use a bowl of lightly salted water to wet your hands while handling the rice balls? It's a trick that works for dough and masa too without the salt, but the added salt helps season the onigiri while you handle it.

                                    • gretch 3 hours ago

                                      I think they are super easy to make.

                                      My tip is to go to a japanese grocery store and buy an onigiri mold for $3. All you do is stuff the rice (and fillings) into the mold and press. Keep the mold in a bowl of water between making balls (like they keep ice cream scoops in water)

                                      • wahnfrieden 3 hours ago

                                        You can also buy specific Japanese rice varieties that are better textured when cold. You can also figure out how to store them without the nori touching the rice

                                      • et-al 3 hours ago

                                        > Are they hard to make at home? I haven't found great/reliable spots to get these in SF. (Where are the great SF spots for these??)

                                        A number of Japanese students I knew just used leftover rice to make onigiri for lunch the next day.

                                        In SF, Super Mira on Sutter & Buchanan has an assortment. And of course Nijiya. I don't think Onigilly is anything special.

                                        • supportengineer 2 hours ago

                                          Try the Japanese markets first. Nijiya, Mitsuwa, Marukai

                                          Pro tip:

                                          Get a real rice cooker (Panasonic) and real rice (Nishiki) and use the right rice-water ratio of 1:1.25

                                          Be sure to rinse the rice to wash off any arsenic dust. (Same is true for other rices and grains)

                                          • tralarpa 4 hours ago

                                            > Are they hard to make at home?

                                            Not at all. You need the right type of rice (and a rice cooker helps). There are many options for the filling, some of which don't even require a trip to the Asian grocery store.

                                            • supportengineer 2 hours ago

                                              A rice cooker is one of those inexpensive but life-changing items.

                                            • Larrikin 4 hours ago

                                              They are basically sandwich equivalents. You need the correct rice but they are easy to make. Parents make them daily for their kid's lunches because they are so easy to make.

                                              But also like sandwiches an excellent one is difficult to make.

                                              • darknavi 4 hours ago

                                                If you have an H Mart near by the sell them in the hot food area.

                                                • Arelius 3 hours ago

                                                  There are some good spots in Japantown I like Kissako tea in the japan town mall...

                                                  • fotta 4 hours ago

                                                    There’s an Onigilly in FiDi but my favorite is the Japanese market in Nob Hill on Polk.

                                                  • flakiness 2 hours ago

                                                    Once we made these onigiris for a potluck my kid's school hosted and they went away very quickly. So we have stopped exploring other menus and just have kept making them every potluck since. And it goes away quickly every time.

                                                    One thing I noticed since is that it can be a great vegan option: You can make one from rice salt and dried kelp/seaweed plus some pickles (umeboshi etc.)

                                                    • onemoresoop 2 hours ago

                                                      Do you recommend making these over buying them?

                                                      • squeaky-clean 5 minutes ago

                                                        They're definitely better freshly made, either at home or a nicer restaurant that makes them to-order. Make sure you buy the correct kind of rice or they won't shape properly.

                                                        But the premade ones are a very easy grab-n-go food. It's like how a homemade burger will always beat a McDonald's burger. But there's times and places where you want a burger but aren't able to stop and cook one up yourself.

                                                        • 123pie123 an hour ago

                                                          I really prefer making them, the rice will be more moist - the rice seems dry when i've bought them

                                                          I use a 1/2 seaweed sheet per ball - again better - crispier if stored well

                                                          our favourite fillings is either curry paste (that very concentrated stuff) or the purple flakes (i think they're called shiso)

                                                          these are one of our families favourite - they go quickly no matter how much we make

                                                          • legalamb an hour ago

                                                            Yes, very inexpensive to make, but outside of Japan they can be priced fairly high as specialty items.

                                                        • dotdi 4 hours ago

                                                          I love onigiri, but over here in Europe they are still pretty niche, and by niche I mean expensive.

                                                          It's basically a sandwhich, right? Only that it costs 5-10x more.

                                                          • presentation 3 hours ago

                                                            Just steam some sushi rice, choose a filling, maybe salt the rice a bit if you want and form it into the shape with your hands. If you want wrap it with some nori, salt or put furikake on it. No need to pay the foreign Japanese food tax! It’s dead simple to make, and whoever is selling that ripoff onigiri to you is probably not even Japanese anyway.

                                                            (Admittedly the rice here does taste better in my opinion, but so it goes…)

                                                            • bambax 2 hours ago

                                                              In France you can find them in supermarkets for EUR 3.50 apiece.

                                                              They're also super easy to make yourself, just some rice, any kind of filling, and half a sheet of nori to wrap it.

                                                              • layer8 4 hours ago

                                                                They cost 1.99–2.69 € where I live (depending on the supermarket chain). A pair of soggy toast sandwiches is about the same price.

                                                                It’s not the cheapest snack in terms of calories per Euro (they are around 130 kcal), but still reasonable.

                                                              • supportengineer 2 hours ago

                                                                Our family loves onigiri. It's one of those foods you can customize to whatever you feel like that day.

                                                                We love this Nori Komi furikake, you can put it on anything, including buttery popcorn!

                                                                https://www.amazon.com/Jfc-International-Seasoning-Furikake-...

                                                                • Sakos 4 hours ago

                                                                  Love these things. I still remember the first time I saw some at a stand at a festival here in Germany. Me and my friend each bought one, then bought a few more because they were so freaking good. Still have pictures of our first bite. It was shortly after that I started seeing them everywhere in supermarkets, and I've been buying them regularly ever since (despite the crazy price).

                                                                  • n1b0m 4 hours ago

                                                                    I fell in love with them when I visited Tokyo and I was pleasantly surprised to find them in a lot of grocery stores in Paris recently. Unfortunately, we don’t seem to get them in the UK at least not in the big supermarkets.

                                                                    • cedws 2 hours ago

                                                                      I haven't seen any in supermarkets, but bought two in a shop in central London recently and it cost £9, which is eye watering compared to Japan 7-Eleven prices.

                                                                      • n1b0m 7 minutes ago

                                                                        I had feeling they were easier to find in London.

                                                                        • Sakos 2 hours ago

                                                                          Damn, and I thought 3€ a piece was a lot.

                                                                    • m3kw9 3 hours ago

                                                                      had the best home made onigari in japan ever. they don't mess around over there

                                                                      • 4hg4ufxhy 4 hours ago

                                                                        For me an onigiri with soggy and chewy seaweed is disgusting, but one of those where the seaweed stays dry and crispy until unwrapping is really tasty.

                                                                        My favourite is wasabi tuna in a tube shape.

                                                                        • fotta 4 hours ago

                                                                          The wrappers where the seaweed is kept separate from the rice until you unwrap it are such a good innovation.

                                                                          • ahartmetz 3 hours ago

                                                                            I almost forgot about these! The common triangular shape didn't make it easy to make it work, but they managed anyway. Pretty cool.

                                                                            I know onigiri from a Japan trip but usually don't buy them in Germany because they are expensive here. Supermarket sushi (sounds strange, but there is actually good supermarket sushi made in a little store-in-store) doesn't cost much more.