• Modified3019 an hour ago

    For those looking for gentler alternatives to the more hardcore cleaners, a general purpose spray cleaner that I’m partial to, are the yellow bottles of windex, which are lactic acid + surfactant.

    • ComputerGuru 7 hours ago

      Thanks for submitting this, OP. I learned a lot from this Nature submission!

      Is there any chance widescale adoption of alternatives would take place if disinfectants harmful to marine life aren’t first legislated into oblivion?

      • ChoGGi 8 hours ago

        I just use benefect decon 30 everywhere.

        • ComputerGuru 7 hours ago

          Interesting recommendation; I never came across it before! Is it sold in stores?

          I bought a bulk order of the “real” original pinesol (the formula where they were still using pine tree oil) from their website ehen they reintroduced it for a retro launch a few years ago, but will consider this when my supply runs out. How does it smell?

          • ahazred8ta 6 hours ago

            As an option, Dettol pine oil disinfectant cleaner is still available https://duckduckgo.com/?q=dettol+pine+oil&ia=web

            • ComputerGuru 2 hours ago

              Dettol has pine oil mainly for the scent; its main active ingredient is Chloroxylenol which is toxic to cats in addition to being disastrous for marine life.

              Original pinesol is primarily sodium lauryl sulfate (soap found in everything) and pine oil for disinfecting… plus ethoxylated alcohols, which are safe for household use but unfortunately disastrous to marine life as exemplified by TFA. I think the real original formula did not contain these latter alcohols and I was unaware of them when I made my purchase.

              Pinesol msds: https://www.thecloroxcompany.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/...

              Dettol and cats: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dettol_antiseptic_liquid

              • sidpatil 33 minutes ago

                > Dettol has pine oil mainly for the scent; its main active ingredient is Chloroxylenol which is toxic to cats in addition to being disastrous for marine life.

                In fact, chloroxylenol is the precursor to the proposed safer alternative, according to the article.